Waco Hearings - Day 10 Footage

Waco Hearings - DAY 10
This clip is not available for streaming at this time. Please contact WPA.	Tape Master:	11018
	Catalog #:	493462
	Clip Number:	493462-1
	Orginal Film:	104220
	Timecode:
	Location:	Washington D.C. Congress Sub-Committee Chamber
	Year Shot:	1995 (Actual Year)
	Audio:	Yes
	Color:	Yes
	Headings:	GOVERNMENT: Hearings, Waco
	Description:	WACO HEARINGS: HIGHLIGHTS REEL 3 - Master Number 11018 - INTRODUCTION: The following footage of the Waco Hearings consists of three excerpts from Master Number 10916. 01:00:01 DERIVED FROM MASTER NUMBER 10916, TIME CODE 10:41:04 Congressman Schumer begins his time by addressing the statements made by Rep. Schiff. His first question is directed to Mr. Sanders. He asks him about the cases he has brought against the AFT, and the general nature of his law firm. Mr. Sanders states he has been involved in such cases, and that his firm represents clients that have grievances against the Justice Department; the ATF is a component of the JD. Congressman Schumer then begins a series of questions involving Mr. Sanders. Rep. Schumer first asks if the National Rifle Association referees clients to him. He replies that he does obtain such clients about three or four times per year. Rep. Schumer then asks him about his former ATF career. Mr. Sanders states he left the organization in 1984. Continuing on, Mr. Sanders is asked of his connection with Tonya McTaska, and if he had been with her anytime during the past four to five months. Mr. Sanders replies that he has meet with her during the past months. Rep. Schumer then asks when and where the meeting occurred. He replies there where three occasions. The first was at the NRA building in Virginia. Another was at the NRA office in Washington D.C. The other was in the office of a congressman. Rep. Schumer asks which congressman, and then what the purpose of the meeting was. He replies that it was the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee, Congressman Lightfoot, and that the congressman was interested in learning the ATF's views on different matters. Rep. Schumer then asks if Ms. McTaska ever introduced him as being a retainer of the NRA. Mr. Sanders states she did not. Congressman Schumer then asks of the duration of his involvement in the NRA. He replies it has existed for some time. Mr. Sanders is then asked if he knows Warren Cassedy, former NRA Executive Director for Legislative Action. He replies that he knew of Mr. Cassedy while affiliated with ATF, but not afterwards. 01:04:30 DERIVED FROM MASTER NUMBER 10916, TIME CODE 10:46:32 Congressman Schiff begins his second round of questioning by asking the panel if the ATF needed to use the allegation of a possible drug nexus in order to gain the assistance of the National Guard. Mr. Coonce agrees that they did. Rep. Schiff then asks if the military would assume the ATF's appeal to be true, and that if it were false it would be a serious matter. He agrees that it would be. Rep. Schiff then asks Mr. Coonce if the military is called in due to a drug violation, then the warrant's primary charge would detail a drug violation. Mr. Coonce agrees that is true in the majority of incidences, but states exceptions due exist. Turning to Mr. Ishimoto, Rep Schiff asks him if the raid was, or was not, well planned, and what, if anything, should have been done differently. He states that during his review of Justice Department documents it became clear the raid did fail, but that the plan had a reasonable chance for success. In terms of what should have been done differently, Mr. Ishimoto states better surveillance gathering. 01:06:30 DERIVED FROM MASTER NUMBER 10916, TIME CODE 10:52:13 Congresswoman Thurman begins her questioning by asking Mr. Morrison if he made a throe report of his Justice Department investigation. Mr. Morrison states that at no time was he ever prevented from obtaining any information, and that his findings are sound. Continuing on, Mr. Morrison states that he did find problems with the ATF's case management and intelligence management. Mr. Ishimoto adds that he, and Mr. Morrison, had total access to all JD reports, that no conspiracies were detected, that there were signs of inexperience with certain officials, but no criminal negligence on any individuals' part. Rep. Thurman then asks Mr. Ishimoto about the recommendations he made in his report. He responds by stating the agencies should be conscious of the lessons they have learnt from Waco. Going further, Rep. Thurman asks what steps can be taken to prevent a repeat of Waco. Mr. Morrison again references her to the contents of the Justice Department report, but states the training of ATF officials has not kept pace with the expanding roll of the agency. 01:08:35 TIME OUT.