Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activiti...

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[00.20.00] Senator WEICKER. Then can you give me some specific examples of cases that involved that kind of release of information? Mr. DEAN. Well. I am trying to think of some of the more celebrated cases in connection with antiwar demonstrators and I Cannot recall with any specificity and having not had an opportunity to go back to my files, it is rather difficult to remember this off the top. Senator WEICKER. Is it a fact. Mr. Dean, that 'Mr. Olson and Kevin Moroney came to your office, at least on one occasion, maybe there are others. to give YOU information relevant to the law on foreign contributions? Mr. DEAN. Yes, they did. I recall a conversation with them both about it; I don't recall whether it was in my office or telephonic in which I raised the subject. I had always assumed that foreign contributions were prohibited under the law. I had been asked by Mr. Stans at one point; who had received a memorandum from Mr., Liddy when he was serving as counsel to the finance committee, that this was a proper contribution to receive. I had occasion to talk to Mr. Olson and Mr. Moroney about this and they had reached another conclusion. They felt, it was not from their reading of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, that unless the individual was an agent in fact and not a principal that such a contribution was not violative of the Federal Law. Senator WEICKER. Why would you seek such information from the Internal Security Division of The Justice Department? Mr. DEAN. Because they had jurisdiction over that 'area of the law. Senator WEICKER. What were your contacts with the Internal Security Division? Do you feel any information that -was supplied to your office from the Internal Security Division might have had some sort of political impact? Mr. DEAN. Well, I think some of the reports that the IEC prepared had political implications to them but those did not go outside of the White House, Now. I would have to review those reports and I have not done that either regarding demonstrations and the like, I did, as I mentioned in my testimony, after I had talked to Mr. Haldeman about, what my office should be doing regarding the forthcoming election I called Mr. Wells, who was then the head of the IEC or Mr. Caulfield brought him -over and told him that the White House was very anxious to have the best intelligence possible regarding the potentials of demonstrations during the forthcoming campaign. Senator WEICKER. And so you maintained a liaison with the IEC? Mr. DEAN. I would say that of all my contacts with the Justice Department my most infrequent contacts were with the Internal Security Division. Senator WEICKER. All right, now, I have in my hand a position report on the Internal Security Division, as of April 15,1972. It is the same report which already has been brought to the attention of the committee, which I submitted to Mr. McCord to identify those individuals with which he had contacts, specifically, Mr. Martin and Mr. Lisker. In this position report dated April 15, 1972, under the Office of Analysis and Planning, there, are listed Bernard Wells, Executive Director of the IDIU, and two assistants, James McGrath and Joyce' Webb. Again, in the interviews which I had at the Internal Security, Division, after Mr. McCord's testimony it -was explained to me quite openly that in fact, this office of Analysis and Planning and this position of Director of the IDIU were a cover for the IEC. This report is dated April of 1972. I will be glad to have you take a look at Does this in any way relate -to recommendations you had made at an earlier date?