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Dalai Lama
The Dalai Lama received permission from Indian Premier Mrs. Indira Gandhi for a cultural mission to Japan, his first voyage out of host country, India, since he escaped the Red Chinese. Dalai (Bstan-'dzin-rgya-mtsho, 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso) and Gandhi sit in a room talking. Dalai sits in a car. He waves to onlookers. Dignitaries escort him to a waiting plane.
Fashions
Scandinavian fashions preview spring and summer '68. Included: maillot lounging outfits, mother-daughter trench coats, and bikinis and cutout-maillots for the beach. Normal runway footage. Models show off various cloths. Onlookers watch from tables. Event held in a theater.
Vietnam
U.S. Marines at Conthien undergo a month-long artillery and mortar pounding from North Vietnam gun emplacements across the buffer zone. Heavy causalities are reported on both sides. Air strikes hit railroad bridges and sidings deep in North Vietnam. Marines dig trenches and then eat lunch. A bomb explodes and causes a soldier to grab his hard hat and take cover. Other soldiers scramble for cover. Cool shot of a soldier lying face first in a dirt trench. Three shots of wounded soldiers being carried off on cots. Soldiers fire artillery rounds. Aerial footage of bombs being drooped on a bridge. The shock wave of various bombs can be seen spreading out from their epicenter.
LBJ's Speech
President Johnson addresses the National Legislative Conference in San Antonio and repeats his previous offers toward a negotiated peace in Vietnam. He says the bombing would halt if it led to "productive" peace talks. The President is shown speaking from a podium. A quick cut away shows the guests at this black tie dinner fundraiser.
August 1, 1994 - Part 3
(13:45:45) Ms. KuLKA. I don't know that anyone-I really don't even know if Mr. Altman knew the status of the case.Senator DAmATo. I'm not asking that. I said would you have approved it? I'm not asking you to get ahead or to try to anticipate what went on at that meeting. I said would you have approved a briefing to the White House or to any private party that disclosed the progress of a case under inquiry? Ms. KuLKA. I don't know what you mean by progress, sir. I don't mean to be argumentative, but our Q's and A's, I think, to some degree, were prepared to discuss some of the procedural aspects, if we were asked that by the Committee. If that is what you mean as progress, I think we would have been prepared to talk about the date that had been originally set for the expiration of the statute and tolling and so on. Senator D'AMATO. Didn't you prepare and send to the staff a memo of February 4, 1994, in which you instructed the RTC officials what areas they should not discuss? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. I did prepare one, and talked about what they were limited to discussing. Senator D'AmATo. Isn't it a fact that that February 4, 1994, memo does not authorize any discussions with non-RTC officials about the likelihood of requiring a tolling agreement from private Parties in the Madison case? Ms. KuLKA. It speaks for itself, sir, and I don't remember the words precisely. Senator D'AMATO. That's a fact. Isn't it a fact that your February 4, 1994, memo does not authorize any discussions with non-RTC of ficials about which particular RTC personnel were supervising the Madison investigation? Ms. KuLKA, I'm sorry, sir, but if 0 you's like to give it to me, I'll reread it. otherwise, you have it in front of ~ you, 'Senator Sarbanes. Mr. Chairman, if we re going to do this-is this Ms. Kulka's memo? ' Senator D'AMATO. Yes. February 4, 1994, and we have it, The CHAIRMAN. If you're asking to have it in front of you, I think You ought to be able to have it in front of you. Ms. KuLKA. I'm sorry to say I can't even read that. 62 Senator D'AMATO. Let's send one down--let's read them out loud, These are talking points for anyone authorized to discuss the Madi. son situation, additional information should not be supplied unless it has been properly approved. This is standard procedure and anyone authorized to speak should be aware that the discussion of any additional information could have an impact on the agency's legal position and any matters arising out of Madison. It's too bad that maybe they didn't have this before because, obviously, matters that are now rather contentious and the question of what they did speak about at that February 2, 1994, meeting could have been avoided. You have a list of eight different points., Does that refresh your recollection? Ms. KULKA. Yes, I have it in front of me now, sir. Senator D'AMATO. Isn't it a fact that the February 4, 1994, memo does not authorize any discussions with non-RTC officials about which particular RTC personnel were supervising the Madison investigation? Ms. KULKA. Unless it had been properly approved, sir. Senator D'AMATO. Correct. I yield the balance of my time to Senator Mack. Senator MACK. I thank my friend. How much time do you have left? Senator D'AMATO. I don't know. Three or 4 minutes. You can take it. Senator MACK, Mr. Roelle, you had testified that Mr. Stephen Katsanos informed you of a press inquiry regarding matters relating to Madison in October 1993, which is to say not September 1993, and didn't you then relay that information to Mr. Altman? Mr. RoELLE, Yes, sir. Senator MACK. Do you have any disagreement with the way I've laid out those dates? Mr. RoELLE. I don't recall exactly when I got the information from Mr. Katsanos. It was the E-mail that I referred to earlier in testimony today. I think be had forwarded a copy of it to me. Senator MACK. I think that was October 6, 1993, but I'm not positive. Mr. RoELLE. I had a subsequent normally scheduled meeting with the Treasury at Treasury. I related the fact that one of our Investigators had been questioned by a reporter regarding the criminal referrals. Senator MACK. What was Mr. Altman's response to that? Mr. ROELLE. He took it rather well. He didn't get upset and he didn't express any indignation. He just said thank you. Senator MACK. Was there any conversation with Ms. Hanson? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, he called Ms. Hanson on the phone and told her what I was telling you.
Play Ball President Kennedy opens the season as the the Baltimore Orioles take the Washington Senators
As the old familiar cry rings throughout the land, President Kennedy opens the season in the old familiar way. He throws out the first ball and settles back to see the Baltimore Orioles take the Washington Senators. Don Rudolph pitches a ball to Jim Gentile - well, it's enough to "kill a mockingbird"- it hits the scoreboard for a homer. Boog Powell comes through with another for the Birds and Baltimore tops the Senators - 3 to 1. A packed baseball field with throngs of fans waiting to watch the Baltimore Orioles take on the Washington Senators. MS - President Kennedy surrounded by politicians and secret service throws out the baseball and the catcher Ken Ritzier catches the ball for his great-grandchildren. MCUS - Ken smiling and holding the ball up for the camera. MLS - Don Rudolph pitches the ball the batter connects the ball and scores a home-run. This puts Baltimore Orioles ahead of the game.
Sub Disaster : Nation Mourns 129 Lost In Test
"I conclude with great regret and sadness that the submarine Thresher is lost" with those words Admiral George Anderson, chief of naval operations mounted an epitaph for 129 men aboard the nuclear craft. After an overhaul the Thresher, fastest and deepest diving of all submarines, was on a test dive in 8,400 feet of water, 200 miles east of Boston, accompanied by the tender Skylark. Presumably the Thresher rests on the ocean's bottom. Her fate recalls a happier one, that of the Squalus in 1939. With a diving bell the Navy was able to rescue 33 men who were still alive. In the ship yard the submarine Thresher is dry docked. (SS 593 Thresher) CUS - The submarine being lowered into the water. MS - The submarine is in the water and takes a bounce backwards. MS - Thresher tied up to the dock. MLS - The naval crew standing on the dock in Naval dress uniform next to the Thresher. MS - You see the top of the Thresher in the ocean out at sea. Aerial shot - The Thresher almost covered by water she is diving and all you see is the wake that she leaves behind.
"Oscar" Awards
"Oscar" Awards: Gregory Peck is Best Actor. The most glamorous night in glamorous Hollywood draws a glittering crown - the 35th annual Academy Awards. There's an air of electrified anticipation among the stars, including Angie Dickinson, Gregory Peck's new leading lady in "Captain Newman, M.D." the awards go to Ed Begley, Patty Duke, Anne Bancroft and Gregory Peck, with the crowd giving an ovation to Mr. Peck, an extremely popular figure in movie circles who had been nominated before only to lose out. His performance in "To Kill A Mockingbird" however, shoots him to the top of the "Oscar" heap. The picture in which he starred also won two other awards. Sophia Loren presented the award to Peck. 35th Annual Academy Awards and a crowd has gathered outside the theater. CUS - Theaters marquee. BS - All the stars and starlets seated in their seats. CUS - A very young Angie Dickinson. MLS - Ann Bancroft at the podium. MLS - Betty Davis. MLS - Gregory Peck and Sophia Loren.
August 1, 1994 - Part 3
(13:50:32) Senator MACK. Mr. Roelle has indicated to us that on two different occasions Roger Altman directed Ms. Hanson with respect to the Madison matters. One, was either on September 24 or 27, 1993 ' you're not positive about the date, but I believe it was September 27, 1993, and the other was on October 6, 1993, when you informed Mr. Altman of the press information. And at that time, he directed Ms. Hanson to inform "Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary," I believe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 63 The CHAMMAN. Senator Dodd. Senator DODD. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't think I'll need all of the time. Let me thank all four of you for being here. As I said the other day, one probably didn't assume that a year or so ago, you'd be as . iced to recall every conversation, thought, or hypothetical ques-tion in front of a Senate panel. It has been a panel for this purpose, so I want to thank you personally. All of you, have distinguished records and long service, and that should be noted as part of the record. I also want to associate myself with the questions raised by Senator Bryan and the concerns raised about the management issue of asking by statute to fill vacancies with only confirmable people. At that particular time in this Administration, it limited the decision to the Secretary of the Treasury and Mr. Altman, thus placing ourselves in a situation that invites the kind of problems and troubles that the OGE's office has identified, I'm hopeful we'll address that issue, but it's important to note that all of you seem to express the notion that Mr. Altman, as well, was concerned about this and trying to do the best job he could. I think it's important for the record to reflect that. I asked some very pointed questions, at the outset, in my line of questioning this morning, to get to the important questions for you, not hypothetical questions about what you would do if you were private attorneys or, in retrospect, what someone should or shouldn't do under political circumstances, and so forth. The issue for all four of you, but principally Mr. Ryan In and Ms. Kulka, is of what, if anything, happened as a result this information being shared? People have used the words "insider information" suggesting, in effect, that that information bad some impact or effect on the progress of the particular cases. There's a legitimate set of questions that will come to those witnesses about what information was shared and with whom, and we ought to look at that. The second set of questions, in my view, addresses the issue of what, then, was done with that information, and to what extent that information, then, affected or is affecting the progress of the particular case', the Madison case. ~ It seems to me you're in a unique position to answer the latter question, and your opinions regarding the first are certainly worthwhile, but only the witnesses who were involved directly in those conversations are going to shed the kind of light that this Committee needs to have. I want to focus this question, again coming back to the point, what were the implications, what actions either were suggested by the White House or the Treasury Department and what, if anything, did the RTC do with that information, if, in fact, it was shared or given to you? It was pointed out by you, Mr. Roelle, that the reason you keep referrals private is for two reasons. One is to protect the innocent. Their reputations can be ruined if that information gets out. The other reason is to not destroy a case to protect a case in effect. I would ask you whether or not that is true, if that is exactly why the rationale for keeping the referrals private is important? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. 64 Senator DODD. Are you, or any of you here, aware of any evi-dence that the disclosures in this case either by the press or oth-ers, in any way altered the course of the referrals or enabled any-one to gain an unfair advantage? Mr. ROELLE. I am not, sir. Senator DODD. No advantage whatsoever? Mr. ROELLE. I am not aware of it. Senator DODD. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KuLKA. I am not. I have great concern about parts of our investigation- that keep getting released inappropriately and the effect that has on our ability
Navy Fledglings Let Fly
They launch a fleet of new light battle cruisers at the Naval Academy. They weigh 30 pounds and up (but not much) and like all Navy armament and personnel they are scrappers. Of course, these are the young boxers who stage a show each year at the Academy. The fists fly, but they play it cool, it winds up in an ice-cream feast. Little boys standing and jumping up and down in a boxing ring. MCUS - Two little boys around five years old come out boxing. CUS - Two more little guys go at it with the boxing gloves on. CUS - A little boxer eating some ice cream.
Nato Nations Meet: Defense Alliance Opens Discussions
NATO Nations Meet In Holland. The 15 nations of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization hear Secretary of State Dean Rusk call for closer relationships on mutual problems. They then tackle the problem on Cyprus and DeGaulle's insistence that French troops stay under French command. The Hague, Netherlands A government limousine with US Secretary of State, David Dean Rusk representing the United States arriving at a NATO Alliance meeting held at the International Court of Justice, in the Juliana barracks, located in Hague. MCUS - Dean Rusk getting out of the State driven limousine, an honor guard standing at attention. MS - Delegates to NATO, three, Dean Rusk is at the far left of the picture, as you view it. MS - Members of NATO. Secretary of State, Dean Rusk "We of the United States look upon the North Atlantic Alliance as an expression of an enduring community of interests and of abiding common commitments to great humane traditions. We're prepared to move ahead with our NATO partners, in strengthening the institutions of the North Atlantic Community. We must better develop the process of political consultation, so as a matter of agreed practice, each of us consults his partners in advance on those policy decisions directly affecting the interest of NATO as a whole." General shots of the conference.
Two Movie Greats Together Again
There s a gala party for two favorite stars - Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor - who are being reunited in a Universal chiller, "The Night Walker." Also includes William Castle, Producer, Milton Rockbill, President, Rochelle Hudson, Gloria Swanson and Cesar Romero. Establishing shot - Universal City, Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor sitting together at a table. CUS Robert Taylor, Barbara Stanwyck Producer Robert Castle. CUS - Robert Castle. MCUS - Robert Castle and Milton Rockbill. CUS - Rochelle Hudson. CUS - William Castle, Gloria Swanson and Cesar Romero. MCUS - The paparazzi or press. MS - Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor.
The Super Plane of Tomorrow B-70
The Super Plane Of Tomorrow. The B-70 a 2,000-mile-an-hour bomber that is expected to speed the production of a new super-sonic airliner, is unveiled for the first time. California A very impressive future-like super sonic looking plane being pulled out of the hanger. MS - A small crowd of people showed up for the unveiling of the new plane. Camera panning gong from nose to the tail, US Air Force. MS - Men looking at the wheels of the plane that look like they could be silver. MS - The jet scoops of the plane, voice over states that a man of six feet can walk through its jet scoops. OHS - The nose of the plane and people walking around it.
Ion Propelled Aircraft - The Ionocraft
Aviation pioneer, Major Alexander P. de Seversky, reveals his new "Ionocraft" a flying platform that will perform many functions sixty miles above the earth. It draws it's energy from the sun or the earth. In this clip it looks like a big Tinker-Toy "If you remember Tinker-Toy's". The Major say's one platform above New York and one platform above Los Angeles, California would permit direct TV communication. New York, NY MS - Major Alexander P. de Seversky revealed a new kind of flying platform. It performs many functions high above the earth. Making no sound this strange and stick looking contraption rises straight up. It makes a few graceful turns, stops and sits there very silently.
Hussein Received By Pope
The King of Jordan is received officially by Pope Paul VI in still another milestone in the Vatican's winding circle of consulting with all men of all faiths. Vatican City, Rome, Italy King Hussein arrives at Vatican City, Rome and is walking with his entourage reviewing the Vatican City Honor Guard. MS - King Hussein and his entourage is received by his Holiness, Pope Paul VI, they pleasantly smile at each other. MCUS - Pope Paul VI and King Hussein exchanging gifts. CUS - Pope Paul VI exchanging good byes with King Hussein's entourage, shaking hands. MS - Pope Paul VI walks over to St. Peter's chair where he and King Hussein exchange words and seal the conversation with shaking of the hands.
Johnson At Fair: Has A busy Day On Flying Visit
Praise And Progress From Our Peripatetic President. Man on the move - LBJ, has a busy day in New York. At the World's Fair, words of praise and progress punctuate his addresses to conventioneers of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers and the dedication of the Venezuelan Pavilion. New York, NY President and Lady Bird Johnson at the World's New York Fair. MS - A convertible heading towards the Unisphere carrying the President and Mrs. Johnson. MS - Crowd of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers and President Johnson is among them. CUS - President Johnson waving and smiling. MS - Raising the American and Venezuela flags outside the Venezuelan Pavilion, throngs of people gather to take part in the ceremony. MS - The President and his wife Lady Bird.
Former President Truman Celebrates 80th Birthday
In Washington at the National Press Club Harry S. Truman sounds off on his 80th Birthday. No indeed, they're not mild about Harry - They're Just Wild About him. Washington DC A stairway jammed packed with people holding up a Happy Birthday banner. MS - President Harry S. Truman walking in at the National Press Club. MS - People on the staircase applauding. MS - A young lady pining a rose on his lapel. CUS - National Press Club logo. MS - A waiter brings in a two tier birthday cake with candles to Harry S. Truman. MS - Harry Truman blowing out his candles. CUS - Harry Truman smiling.
Anniversary For J. Edgar Hoover
Anniversary For J. Edgar Hoover. FBI Chief observes his 40th Anniversary as the nation's Chief Law Enforcement Officer. He receives a bronze bust of himself as one of the many tributes paid to him on the occasion. He is 70 and at the request of President Johnson will continue to head the FBI. Washington DC J. Edgar Hoover and Emit MaGayhe, a former FBI Agent standing in his office. MS - Former FBI Agents attending this small and personal ceremony. MS - Emit MaGayhe unveils a bust of J. Edgar Hoover. CUS - J. Edgar Hoover bust. MS . A smaller bust is handed off to J. Edgar Hoover that he can pass out to his friends and associates.
Tornado Smashes Into Michigan
12 persons perish - 50 others are injured as a tornado rips through Southeast Michigan - some 20 miles north of Detroit. 200 homes are destroyed and several hundred others badly damaged. Michigan Complete devastation, trees in the ground with branches and leaves totally ripped off, and piles of broken up wood. MCUS - The remains of a house and stripped and broken trees. CUS - A car totally covered by house debris and trees. MCUS - Another home that was torn apart by the tornado. MS - A foundation and some landscaping that survived the tornado, the hose is gone. MS - Every thing is gone from around this house but the house sustained some damage but in spite of it all remained standing.
White Water Racers Compete
Spring starts the white-water Kayaks Racing in Europe. In the Eiffel Mountain region - this race is run down a slick slalom course....plenty of chills and spills....and thrills. Germany A whitewater river in West Germany. A Kayaker takes on a small waterfall others follow. An exciting shot of a Kayaker slicing through the whitewater, this is called a "pirouette". The water is extremely turbulent. MS - Kayaker navigating his ride through a hanging gate, he goes over a small fall and he gets dunked and a 50 second penalty is given. MS - One Kayaker looses it just before the finish line.
Brandt In US: West Berlin Mayor Meets With Johnson
A favorite German, West Berlin's Mayor Willy Brandt meets with President Lyndon Johnson in Washington. The Mayor receives assurances from the President that the United States will continue to uphold freedom's cause in divided Germany. Washington DC Exterior shot of the White House. MS - West Berlin's Mayor Willy Brandt walking with President Lyndon B. Johnson in the rose garden. MCUS - Washing press with their cameras. MCUS - Mayor Brandt and President Johnson. CUS - Willy Brandt and President Johnson sitting down inside the White House drinking coffee with German and American aids in the back ground. MS - Washington DC press. MS -Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara shaking hands with Mayor Brandt other government officials follow.
August 1, 1994 - Part 3
(13:55:19) Senator DODD. Mostly in the press? Ms. KuLKA. Certainly, at some point, in the press, sir. Senator DODD. Mr. Ryan? Mr. RYAN. No, I'm not aware of any either, Senator DODD. Mr. Katsanos? Mr. KATSANOS. No, sir. Senator DODD. To your knowledge-and again anyone here-to your knowledge, did anyone who learned about the referrals-and we may find more who learned about the referrals--did an one use this case? that information in any way whatsoever to interfere with Mr. RoELL.E. No, sir, not that I'm aware of Senator DODD. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KuLKA. No, sir. Mr. RYAN. Not that I'm aware of. Mr. KATSANOS. No, sir. Senator DODD. I think that's an important point, Mr. Chairman, to make. Again, who had the information is important, but what they did with that information and to what extent they used that information to, in any way, try to pressure the RTC from doing its business is also important. These are the witnesses uniquely qualified to answer that question and the answer has been no. Mr. Chairman, I think at this point it might also be worthwhile to include in the record this morning pages 7, 8, and 9 of the Office of Government Ethic,' analysis of the meetings between Ms. Hanson, Mr. Nussbaum, and Mr. Sloan. I found that tremendously worthwhile. It's technical in nature, but our colleagues ought to focus on those pages, particularly when it comes to both the legality and the propriety of that information being shared. I would ask unanimous consent that be included in the record. The CHAIRMAN. We had included that in the record, but I think drawing your attention to those pages is also appropriate. Senator Bond, a vote has started. You're next. Id like to start with you and see how far we can get and, in light of the fact we're going to have to adjourn for this vote, we should go on. I'd like to resume. I've talked to all the Members present. Some wish to have a few additional questions. Some think they'll need the whole time period, some not, I think we can finish here. I'd like to do that right after this vote so we can save the remainder of the day for Ms. Hanson, who I think we need to hear from. She will address many of these same issues, and I'd like to bring her on as early this afternoon as we can. But I want to make sure-everybody has a chance to finish up with these witnesses. Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman 65 Senator SARBANES. Can we get some sense of bow much time this panel will involve, because some of us may not have any further questions for this panel. The CHAIRMAN. I think, from my estimation here, 30, 35 minutes from what Members have said to me. Now, that can change based on what develops, but that's my best estimate based on asking each Senator Domenici. I'm going to go vote and come back. inn Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman an, I'm going to do the same. I'm going to vote, come back, and have my questions. The CHAIRMAN. Very good. Senator Bond. Senator BOND. Hopefully, we can go quickly and finish up in 7 minutes. I'm going to follow up on the line of questions asked by my good friend from Connecticut. I want him to know that. Senator DODD. I'm going to stick around. Senator BOND. We have bad in the record significant discussions. The written answer provided to me by the RTC said the reason that you don't disclose an ongoing investigation is because it may serve to alert a suspect that an investigation may be pending and enable the suspect to conceal or destroy evidence, conceal or dissipate the proceeds of the crime, fabricate evidence, or otherwise impede the investigation. That's correct, Mr. Ryan? Mr. RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOND. If a subject or a suspect who had been tipped off had concealed, destroyed, dissipated proceeds, or fabricated evidence, you may not know that. Is that correct? Mr.RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOND. Thus, when you say that there has been nothing as a result of this tipoff that would impede the investigation, you can speak with knowledge about the work going on internally at the RTC, but do you have any means of knowing whether any action was taken by any of the people mentioned in the referral, whether it was Governor Tucker or other subjects? Do you have any positive knowledge that no steps were taken by the people named in the referral? Mr. Roelle? Mr. ROELLE. Sir, I think I answered that. I'm not aware of anything. Senator BOND. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KULKA. I would have no knowledge, sir. Senator BOND. Mr. Ryan? Mr. RYAN. I would have no knowledge. Senator BOND. Mr. Katsanos? Mr. KATSANOS. There's no way to make that determination. Senator BOND. That's precisely the reason you don't disclose it, because you as regulators would have great difficulty finding out if there was a premature disclosure and you bad not been able to proceed with your investigation. Ms. KULKA. Sir, that is why I continue, in every forum I have, to try to protect the information that we are gathering with respect to our investigation. I am concerned, sir, that it could be released to anyone who does not have an absolute need to know because of its utility for other people, and it goes way beyond the specific issues you've raised. 66 Senator BOND. I would agree with you. I think it is quite accurate. I would ask, Mr. Ryan, the Office of Government Ethics report that we've discussed, laid out specifically why possibilities of a leak or press inquiries were not an adequate basis for destroying the confidentiality. Do you agree, and is it the policy of the RTC that the possibility of a press inquiry or a prospective leak is a sufficient reason to divulge confidential information?
August 1, 1994 - Part 3
(14:01:05) Mr. RYAN. I have not seen that report. I haven't had an opportunity to review it in depth. Senator BOND. Let me ask you another way. Were you to have' an exception that said if there was a prospective leak or a possible press inquiry, would that not open you to disclosure of every piece of confidential information? Mr. RYAN. It would. Senator BOND. Excuse me, let the record say that Mr. RYAN. It would. Senator BOND. -Mr. Ryan said that it would. Because, once the press found that the RTC was a great fishing ground, you could expect Mr. Katsanos' phone to ring 24 hours a day. Is that correct? Mr. RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOND. Mr. Katsanos? Mr. KATSANOS. That is correct. The CHAiRMAN. Sounds like it's been ringing 24 hours a day. Senator BOND. I bad some questions for Mr. Roelle. The CHAIRMAN. He'll be back in just a -moment. Ile had to step away for a second. Mr, KATSANOS. Senator Bond, may I inject one point here on the question of referrals? Senator BOND. Yes. Mr. KATSANOS. Our policy is if a reporter approaches our office and has information, and in our determination very good information, about a referral, we still would not acknowledge it. Senator BOND. I thank you, sir, and I believe that makes great sense. Ms. Kulka, let me turn to you. What was it that led you to write the memo on February 4, 1994, discussing appropriate limitations on discussion? Was there a query? Was there information that came to your attention that necessitated such a memo? Ms. KULKA. I think it was partly my frustration for seeing how things operated at the RTC, especially Mr. Katsanos' Early Bird, which I believe spread information around to inappropriate people. For instance, those things are not marked confidential. They're not delivered in sealed envelopes. They are delivered to the outside inbox so anyone passing through my office, for instance, could see them. I thought they provided a lot of information or misinformation that we would neither want to deny nor admit, and that was endemic to what was going on at the RTC that caused me the kind of concerns that led me, after the discussion with Mr. Ryan, to issue this memo. Senator MACK. With respect to-was there a particular reason why that memo was written 2 days after the White House meeting? Ms. KuLKA. No. 67 Senator BOND. You did not know about the White House meeting'? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator BOND. In preparing the briefing for the February 24, 1994, appearance before the Banking Committee, did Mr. Altman or Ms. Hanson reveal to the people involved in the meeting the existence of the fall 1993 briefings to the White House? Ms. KuLKA. No. Senator Bond. That was not discussed? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator BOND. Mr. Roelle, in your first meeting with Mr. Altman, he laid down certain guidelines with respect to special measures to be taken when there were high-profile individuals affiliated with failed S&L's. Is that correct? Mr. ROELLE. The first meeting on Madison? Senator BOND. March 1993. Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator BOND. Mr. Altman said he didn't want to read it in the paper. Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator BOND. This became your standard operating procedure. You wanted to make sure he didn't read any of these things in the paper. Mr. RoELLE. That's correct. ..Senator BOND. If they involved high-profile individuals. Mr. RoELLE. That's correct. Senator BOND. Mr. Roelle, were you involved in any discussions with Mr. Altman, Ms. Hanson, Mr. Newman, or other Treasury officials in the time period of March to May 1993, on the issue of the RTC's position on extending the statute of limitations which, as you may recall, was conveyed in a reversal of policy and the letter signed May 4, 1993, by Mr. Altman, in which the RTC went on record as saying it no longer supported extension of the statute of limitations? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, I'm aware there were a number of discussions. Senator BOND. Who was involved and what was the subject of those discussions? Mr. ROELLE. It's whether-there's two issues, just so everybody understands. There's two issues relating to the statute of limitations, There's one relating to our ability to pursue cases that have wrongdoing with regard to willful intent and fraud. And then there was the issue-the later issue with regard to some of the States being in conflict with
Queen Attends Royal Ascot
(Letterboxed, compressed full-screen 1.85:1) "This is the place to go when you want to watch the nags, the thoroughbreds run. The Queen leads a posh crowd attending the Royal Ascot and many people actually watch the race." LS Queen Elizabeth II and entourage walking onto racetrack. MS Queen Elizabeth II. High angle LS crowd at track. CU woman looking through binoculars. Panign TLS start of horse race. CU high society woman wearing clamshell hat, gloves, raising binoculars to eyes. Panning h/a LS last stretch of horse race, winner Zalukas crossing finish line. H/a TLS Zalukas & jockey being led to victory circle.