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August 2, 1994 - Part 11
(00:35:18) Senator KERRY. No. You're reading from the Eggleston memorandum. Mr. BRAUNREUTHER. Yes. Page 6 and page 7, the question is on page 6. Senator DODD. Do we all have copies of this? Senator DOMENICI. So let me read this to you. This is how, I think, they perceived you, as long as-that was your role as a decisionmaker as long as you didn't recuse yourself The question posed in this memo is, and I'm going to read memo number 1: This says, "now that Mr. Altman as acting CEO of the RTC has recused himself from further involvement in the Madison Guaranty matters, who"_'who at the RTC will be the decisionmaker on whether to bring a civil action arising out of the failure of Madison Guaranty." Now, that answer reveals that you were to he the decisionmaker. And again, maybe you didn't believe that, but that's what this White House memo says. You were the decisionmaker. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, they may have believed that, but they were wrong. Senator DOMENICI. I'm going to et to you and let you answer it. You might very well be the one that doesn't think it but they do and that accounts for the pressure. Let me read on, The answer reveals you were to be the decisionmaker until you recused yourself. Now I'm going to read from the memo that I 'have marked out as paragraph 2 and it continues on, and it says, "following his testimony before the Senate Banking Committee on Thursday, Mr. Altman recused himself as acting CEO of the RTC from any further involvement in Madison Guaranty/Whitewater matters. The top official at RTC, who will be making these decisions on Madison Guaranty, is Jack Ryan., Mr. Ryan was formerly with the Office of Thrift Supervision. He is a career official. His principal advisor will be Ellen Kulka, now General Counsel at RTC who also comes from OTS Ms. Kulka is also a career official." I And it continues on. "We intend to nominate a person for the position of CEO of the RTC within the next few weeks. We can participate"-excuse me---"we can anticipate that any person the "President nominates will be pressured to recuse from the Madisonrelated matters. If the person refuses to recuse and if that person is forced to recuse to achieve confirmation, then Jack Ryan will reMain the decisionmaker on Madison matters at RTC." Now, actually, I've been wondering where all this pressure comes ,to keep you there, and I believe this is the answer. And I'm not ,saying you necessarily believe this, but now I believe unequivocally 536 that the decisionmaker was always perceived, the one who decide whether lawsuits were filed in that 3-week period,, thatwere perceived by the White House to be that person. Now you can elaborate, Mr. ALTMAN. Well, my best understanding is that's not consistent with the testimony of the other participants in the meeting. they all said that they got the message in terms of my not playing any role in the case. I think they said that themselves. It's also not consistent with Mr. Steiner's diary where he says every- one agreed that I'd play no role in the case. And also, Senator, on February 11, the Congress of the United States extended the statute of limitations for 2 more years, made the issue completely moot on February 11. Senator DOMENICI. Mr. Mr. ALTMAN. On February 11 the 2-year extension I was not going to play any role, I was stepping down on March 30. Senator DOMENICI. You understand that on February 2 is what I'm talking about, when they talked you out of-when they talked you out of recusing yourself. On February 2, they had no idea at the White House that the statute would be extended on February 11. And let me further confirm for you something very interesting about this memo, OK? This memo was from-it was sent by Harold Ickes-this memo by Harold Ickes to the First Lady. Do you have any comment? Mr. ALTMAN. No, not really. Senator DOMENICI. Thank you. Senator KERRY. Mr. Chairman, if I could say to my friend The CHAIRMAN. Let me just indicate, Senator Moseley-Braun is next in the order and she's been waiting patiently. I want to call on her and if she wants to yield to you, she can. I don't want to Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. I will be delighted to yield back some time after I ask MY question. I can do that, that's not a problem because I don't think--this shouldn't take too long.
Sugar Cane Irrigation
Plants growing in watered ditchesTractor rolling through field, long shot.Long shot of tractor rolling the other wayLong shot of farmer hoeing the fieldsLong shot of farmer hoeing the fields - from the other directionLong shot of two farmers clearing the irrigation ditch.
Wheat Fields Pumping
CU of an irrigation hole as it fills w/ water; worker in hardhat turns wheel of pressure valve. Water flows from a pipe into a man made pond. Shot of wheat fields, wheat is just sprouting. Shot of wheat fields with cars driving along the highway in the background. .Arizona wheat field semi-flooded. Irrigation scenes -- farmer lays pipe and starts the water, which begins to ooze across the irrigation fields.
Irrigation Ditch
Shot of ditch of a full grown grain fieldShot of H2O flowing down a wooden irrigation pipeShot of H2O flowing between a wheat field and an embankment.Water flowing in a man-made wooden canal; very intricate looking.H2O flowing in a small man-made cement canal, w/wooden bridge.
Irrigation Ditch, Red Clay
Shot of a man-made canal w/red clay banksH2O flowing down man-made canal with red clay banks.CU of H2O flowing down canal w/red clay banksMed. shot of H2O flowing down canal w/red clay banks.
Watering New Tree Plant
Native American tilling a roadside garden Native American tilling roadside garden as a monk walks by. Native American pruning a tree. Native American watering a sapling Native American waters a sapling, as a monk prunes another. Native Americans prune, till, and water three samplings as a monk, overseeing the nuturing process. Native Americans prune, and water three samplings as a monk, overseeing the nuturing process points another Native American toward another field. Native American tills roadside garden and shows his work to a full dressed monk.Native American waters tree while a monk shakes down another.
Irrigation Pumps
Est. shot of an irrigation pipelineShot of an irrigation pump; along pipeEst. shot of twin irrigation pumps on riverTwo shot of twin pumps, distorted viewTwo shot of twin pumps; side viewEst. shot of irrigation pump system; tilt up rail pipesCU of an irrigation pump wellPersonification shot of an irrigation pump , as it "oversees" workers in the field.
Irrigation - Sprinklers
Sprinklers spray green fields; farm complex in background.Pan of green fields w/ sprinklers going.
American Canal
Water flowing through a shipping canal, Est. shot Pan the river to canal Pan the river to river bank Pan from one canal, over dam, to another canal
August 2, 1994 - Part 11
(00:40:30) I feel so badly, Mr. Altman. This is so late and it's been such a grueling experience for you and I don't mean to pile on, but I think there is something that I'd like to get clarification on. Mr. ALTMAN. Today is my son's 9th birthday and I am a little Sorry to say I didn't talk to him today. It's not likely he's still watching, but Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Thank you, Mr. Altman. Mr. ALTMAN. -If he sees the tape I want him to know I love him. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. That's great. Happy birthday to your son and I hope you have some time soon to celebrate with him. Again, I really apologize this is really difficult, but it's obviously an important area. Some of my colleagues have suggested you got yourself in this difficulty to begin with when you waited too long to recuse yourself on these matters. I think, and have all along, that you got on the slippery slope with this in the first place when you took this second job at the RTC, that that was the critical decision when you decided to take that position. Earlier this evening, I had asked you if you sought advice of counsel regarding the relationship and the potential for legal or 537 ethical conflict between the two positions that you held. And your response to me indicated that you had not. Again, this may or may not be a contradiction, but Mr. Foreman who is the Deputy General Counsel and the Ethics Officer over at Treasury related a specific conversation in March 1993, before you took the second job, in which be warned you not to take it, not to take this second job, and I really wanted-would like to try to refresh your recollection and clarify the record in that regard. Do you have any recollection of that conversation? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I honestly don't. Dennis Foreman is a straight- up guy and maybe be did. I don't remember it. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Again, just to refresh your recollection because it's kind of almost ironic, frankly, what it was that he said to you. He said to you-the question was "do you recall any discussion at the time Mr. Altman was appointed about whether it was advisable to have a person who was Deputy Secretary of the Treasury sitting in the position of interim CEO from the standpoint of the legislative distinction or legislative wall between the Oversight Board and the RTC?" He goes on and says, and I'm just going to quote this part. He says, when I heard that it was being considered that he was going to be appointed, I decided I needed to personally say something to him and talk to him about it." A few more words later and then he says, "I said to him, Roger, if you do this. and take an appointment as interim CEO, something terrible is going to happen to you while you are the CEO. It will be something gat you will probably not have anything to do with and you will be blamed for it and it's going to be terrible. I remember exactly what he said to me in response. He said Dennis, we cannot leave the RTC leaderless while we are trying to finish the funding and finish their work." Do you have a recollection of that conversation? Mr. ALTMAN. No, I don't, but I guess Mr. Foreman was right. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. I really don't have any other questions except maybe to suggest bad you might send a thank you note to -Mr. Foreman or congratulate him on his prescience. Mr. ALTMAN. I don't remember that, but that was good insight. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. That's what he said. Roger, something terrible is going to happen to you. Mr. ALTMAN. It did. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Right. It won't have anything to do with you and you will be blamed and it will be terrible, that 's what he said. Id. Mr. ALTMAN. That's what happened. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Again, I want to thank you very much for our patience. I just wanted to clarify your recollection with regar to Mr. Foreman's testimony and to make sure the record was straight on the point. Mr. ALTMAN. Thank you. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. I yield the remainder of my time to Senator Kerry. Senator KERRY. I won't use all of it. I appreciate that enormously I guess our colleague has left now. I regret that enormously he drew a very dramatic conclusion which I don't if you read this document, is fully merited. I think I have 538 asked as many hard questions about the recusal issue as an here, but I find that this particular document, in fact, would score and almost provides evidence to the contrary in the that it is a document, a legal memorandum from Mr. transfer to the First Lady on March 1 written on which is several weeks after the meeting where the recusal was discussed. Mr. Eggleston was not at that meeting. And all of the witnesses who were at the meeting of February 3 have, indeed, agreed at that - meeting, Mr. Altman said be was not going be involved.
August 2, 1994 - Part 11
(00:45:30) So while I have sought to try to understand the recusal issue nevertheless, there is no question before this Committee that man personally was going to somehow be involved. So for somebody who is writing a memo who wasn't at that meetin to suggest Senator DODD. The February 2 meeting. You said the 3rd. Senator KERRY. At the February 2 meeting or the February 3 meeting with Mr. Ickes, for someone to write this on February 28 saying now that Mr. Altman has recused himself, in fact, demonstrates he was not privy to any of that discussion on the 3rd or the 2nd and didn't know what Mr. Altman's true relationship to this decisionmaking was. So I would simply respectfully submit that this is, if you read the whole memo, a fairly straightforward lawyering memo, a status-oriented memo that kind of lays out where things are going and it almost shows a fairly significant lack of day-to-day knowledge of what is happening and the data significant for the quantity of lack of information. Senator DODD. If my colleague would yield. Just a step further on 'that point, I mean, it said and I'm sorry the Senator of New Mexico has left as well, with sort of the pause for drama, that Mrs. Clinton got a copy of this memo from Mr. Ickes, who is what, the Deputy Chief of Staff at the White House, as if somehow that is a major revelation and someone ought to be getting a copy of a legal memo regarding the status. Senator KERRY. I might just add, it involves the RTC/Rose Law Firm issues, the Rose Law Firm of which Mrs. Clinton was a partner. I think- I'm not trying--I think I've been fair in these proceedings, trying to find the facts. It strikes me that this is not what it has purported to be and it's important for us not to leave so now Mr. Eggleston I think is coming in. Am I correct? So we'll have ample opportunity to explore this with him but on the face of it, I think we should not draw a conclusion at this point in time. I think it's unfair. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Bennett. Senator DAMATO. Will the Senator yield for a moment? Senator BENNETT. Yes, I'd like to yield a minute to Senator D'Amato. Senator DAMATO. Mr. Chairman, I'm going to ask that the entire memo be placed in the record. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, so ordered. Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman, I just make note that Mr. Eggleston was at one of those meetings, the February 3 meeting, where Mr. Ickes came in. That's number one, so he had a little understanding and he is from the Office of White House Counsel. 539 Second, Mr. Ickes is the Deputy Chief of Staff, and I think-and he was at both of those meetings, and so I don't think we should be drawing inferences that somehow they were not in a position to understand all of the nuances With Mr. Ickes being at both of the meetings, Mr. Eggleston being at one of them. I thought I'd like to put that on the record. Senator KERRY. I think that's fair. All I'm suggesting, Senator, is I think it's important for him to explain it and put it in a context before we have a dramatic conclusion. Senator DAMATO. I thank my colleague. Senator BENNFrr. I'll yield a minute to Senator Gramm. Senator GRAMM. I'd like to add just two more points. First of all, this memo, except for the introductory paragraph, was redacted, so we didn't get it initially. We bad to go back and ask for it. So that suggests that somebody somewhere may have not wanted us to have it. Second, there is a cover memo, which neither you nor Senator DAmato referred to. This cover letter is the memo to the First Lad~ from Harold Ickes, which then encloses the memo from Mr. Egg leston. Mr. Ickes was at every meeting, and if he is forwarding this memo on to the First Lady to read, it seems to me that is clear and convincing evidence to, at least, his belief in the veracity of it. That's all I wanted to point out. Senator KERRY. Let me just say to my friend that if the issue of his being there was of such critical importance and on the 3rd, be got out-be said he was going to stay and what, the 25th, he gets out, there would have been some knowledge about who the other players were. Now, I'm not trying to exonerate. All I'm saying is you can't draw that conclusion. But second, don't make insinuations about the redactions because this entire memo is outside of the scope of this hearing. It does not involve contacts, and it has only been made available to us by virtue of the White House's willingness to clarify this, to unredact and make it available. But into the scope of this hearing, we have no right to this and it's by their judgment that they want this open that we have it.
Nice Kids & MayPole Dance
MS of little boys and girls in flowers and pretty clothes. Girls some of them wearing bonnets and others flowers in their hair outside on a grassy field. 02:08:01 LS Maypole dance in a landscape that is coastal US- palm trees in the background. Girls dressed in pastels - light blues and creams - stand in a circle around the pole with long banners which are tied to the top of the pole. They walk in and out holding the long banners and start going around the pole in different formations. 02:00:32 Groups of boys seated in circles on the ground. In the center pairs of boys and girls prance about. 02:08:43 Another angle of children activity END 02:08:54 ds in flowers and nice clothes. LS women dancing the maypole dance (looks like Southeast Asia, but most of the children are Caucasian).
Cafe Society Dance
MS of man and woman in formal wear. The man holds the woman by the waist and one hand. They circle around the floor dancing and talking. 02:09:08 MS Old timers outdoors cluster about in couples dancing. Couple in center go round and round speedier than the rest. END 02:09:26