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July 29, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 460075_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10054
Original Film: 102862
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(15:45:30) I doubt that any of us would want to find ourselves in a position like what you had to go through in trying to gain information at such an incredibly delicate time, but you were doing your job. And as I understand it, as you were interviewing Sheila Anthony, Webster Hubbell pushed you and effectively ended that interview. Is that correct? Ms. BRAUN. Yes. I was talking, I believe it was to Shelia An- It was one of the sisters, and I bad just basically started a conversation, trying to kind of build rapport to try to get information about Mr. Foster's state of mind prior to the suicide, and I virtually had just started the conversation when Webster Hubbell came up and moved me to the side with his arm, and then be took Sheila Anthony off the couch and into his arms, and walked away from me. co I do not know whether that was a function of grief, if be was comforting her or, I had not gotten far enough into a conversation to say, that be was trying to prevent me from getting information. her Senator MACK. I would suspect he probably was trying to comfort Justice her, which is a very understandable emotion. But is title at the Department, Associate Attorney General, says to me, he clearly understood what you were there to do. So, I am not questioning his motive. But let me ask you this question. Is this the first time that you have teamed up having to go make a notification? Mr. ROLLA. Together, yes. 84 Ms. BRAUN. Together, yes. Senator MACK, Individually, "have you -had to go to homes before to inform loved ones of a death in the family? Ms. BRAUN. I have done notifications before, both in person and over the telephone. This was John's first notification. Senator MACK. It was your first? Mr. ROLLA. This was my first death notification, yes. Senator MACK. Well, then let me just address my questions to you, Ms. Braun. I will tell you what my own feeling is, and then you tell me whether it might be accurate or not. I sense that when police officers come into someone's home, that there are two emotions that are being dealt with there. One is grief. The other one is who is in control, And I would think that in most circumstances, when police officers come into a home, there is a sense that the police officers have information they need to gather, and they are relatively in control of the situation. Is that a fair assessment? Ms. BRAUN. That is a fair assessment. Normally, of course, you are delivering a big blow to these people and you have to allow Some time for them to deal with the information that you have just given them. But after a period of time, they calm down and you can speak to them, and generally there's no problem in getting answers to questions. Senator MACK, I get the impression from the materials that we have looked through that both of you were kind of disregarded, pushed to the side, and that your ability to carry out your responsibilities was not given much consideration by the people in that house. Ms. BRAUN, I am not going to disagree with you, Senator. I kind of feel like we were being very understanding, maybe too understanding, and we did not overly assert ourselves either. The CHAIRMAN. Ms. Braun, would you pull the mike just a little bit closer. I just want to make sure that everyone has a chance to hear you. Thank you. Senator MACK. Mr. Rolla, did you have any thoughts about what you saw happen to Ms. Braun? Mr. ROLLA. No, I did not see it. She told me about U. Senator MACK, What was your reaction to it? Mr. ROLLA. Well, it was rude. Cheryl was angry because it was rude. Our action was that we were there and under the circumstances people act differently when you tell them bad news. And, you are right, the police are the good guys but we're basically intruders that brought terrible news, tragic news into your home. That is why I said it would be better without all the other people there, because people would calm down and they'd look to us for comfort, and we could -et some information At that point, they had enough other people there for comfort. There were close friends, relatives, and they did not need us, and they did not really want to deal with us or the situation at the time. That is what my feeling was.

Air Pollution
Clip: 425660_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-011-05
HD: N/A
Location: New York, New York
Timecode: 00:19:41 - 00:20:23

The newest thing in air pollution control devices is installed in the incinerator of Saint Vincent's Hospital in New York. It comes with a heat and smoke-sensing attachment which helps reduce fly ash and soot in burned garbage. Officials hail the move as a step toward cleaner city air. A doctor and a nun are shown an air pollution device. Camera pans down to an incinerator lit burning a very hot fire. Housekeepers sweep trash into the incinerator. Someone opens a small door, so you can see the compressed ash and soot from the garbage that has been burned. ECU Incinerator burns garbage.

Malaysia Festival
Clip: 425661_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-011-06
HD: N/A
Location: Malaysia
Timecode: 00:20:24 - 00:20:47

In Malaysia, the nation's biggest Hindu religious festival takes place. Some celebrators carry heavy wooden structures to atone for past sins. The festival crowd of half-a-million people includes tourists from multi-racial nations. Throngs gather for the biggest Hindu religious festival in Malaysia. Men dance in the street carrying objects made of bamboo with flowers. CU Men in the parade have mouth shields over their mouths. High Angle Shot crowds of Hindu people celebrate the festival.

Track Records
Clip: 425662_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-011-07
HD: N/A
Location: Boston, Massachusetts
Timecode: 00:20:48 - 00:22:02

Track records tumble in one record breaking weekend. Neal Steinhauer shatters his previous shot-put record with a throw of sixty-seven feet, ten inches. Bob Seagren pole vaults seventeen feet, two inches, setting a new world record. Kerry O'Brien of Australia sets a second meet record within 48 hours running in the fastest two-mile ever in Boston. World shot-put champion, Neal Steinhauer with his own special technique throws a shot-put setting a new record. Bob Seagren runs with his pole vault in spite of a pulled muscle. On his second attempt he sets a new world record 17ft 2in. The enthusiastic sports crowd makes a standing ovation. Australian distance runner, Kerry O'Brien joins in the record setting theme of the day. He scores category 8.38 and 4/10 second on an indoor 2-mile run.

Yanks Freed: German Reds, Czechs Release Prisoners
Clip: 425663_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-012-01
HD: N/A
Location: Germany, Czechoslovakia
Timecode: 00:22:42 - 00:23:54

A total of five Americans are released after being held prisoners in both Communist East Germany and Czechoslovakia. The West Berlin four, includes a girl, are released after serving one year on charges of helping East Germans flee to the west. In New York, Vladimir Kazan-Komarek is freed from prison in Prague after diplomatic moves. He was sentenced to eight years on subversion charges. Four men and a woman sit at a table with microphones. CU Fredrick Matthews of Elmwood, Pennsylvania. CU Moses Reese Herrin of Akron, Ohio. CU Mary Helen Battle of Oak Ridge, Tennessee and William Wyatt Lovett of San Francisco, California. They were all prisoners for more than a year. CU Czech-born American travel agent Vladimir Kazan-Komarek is greeted by his wife after disembarking a plane. He is overjoyed to have his freedom. ECU Vladimir kissing his wife. CU of their five children 3 boys and 2 girls. They sit together in a room as one big happy family. Vladimir kisses his son on the cheek.

Mekong Delta
Clip: 425664_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-012-02
HD: N/A
Location: Southeastern, Vietnam
Timecode: 00:23:54 - 00:24:53

South Vietnamese troops kill 54 Vietcong guerrillas in brief but bloody fighting in the Mekong delta. Thick, heavy jungle makes tough going for the troops and provides perfect cover for VC snipers and mines. Meanwhile, the Pentagon announces total American causalities as over 50 thousand with the loss of 1,750 aircrafts. US Marines disembark from a marine duct, running through knee deep water onto the shore. Marines sinking knee deep into mud on their way to the solid ground. CU a Marine steadily making his way up an incline holding his assault rifle in one hand and steadies himself on the muddy wet ground with the other. CU Rear shot of two Marines making their way through the Mekong Delta. CU Marine making his way through the jungle. CU Marines making their way through a very thick and wet jungle. Low Angle Shots Marines making their way through the jungle, walking over fallen trees, jumping down onto the ground. CUS Marine troop leaders review their plans. The Mekong delta region encompasses a huge portion of southeastern Vietnam, and the size of the area covered by water depends on the season. That is the reason why the Marines are walking through so much water and mud.

Midwest Snow
Clip: 425665_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-012-03
HD: N/A
Location: Chicago, Illinois and Indiana
Timecode: 00:24:53 - 00:25:46

Midwesterners are buried when the second major snowstorm hits within a week. It brings the total snowfall close to three feet. In Chicago, warned hours in advance, motorists and pedestrians accept it with good humor. Indiana, meanwhile, reports six deaths due to the storm. Chicago Blizzard of 1967. Michigan Avenue is busy with traffic and pedestrians in the winter. People walking on Michigan Avenue in the snow. CU either the people are waiting for a light to change so they can cross the street or their waiting for a CTA bus to come at a bus stop. Two girls look up to the sky. High Angle shot of traffic gridlock. CU ladies bundled up, waiting for a CTA bus or a traffic light to change. High Angle Shot more traffic gridlock. CU a pretty young blond all bundled up. People walking beneath the El tracks. Its evening time and people are getting off of work on their way home. A truck making its way down the outer drive early in the foggy morning. Snow keeps falling blanketing Chicago in snow. In Indiana, traffic is close to a standstill on the Frank Borman Expressway. It s the east west highway to Indiana (I-80). CU overturned truck. CU two men digging out the trailer of the truck. MS snow covered street in Indiana, cars are buried by the snow. POV looking out the windshield, car driving down a snow covered street.

Mended Leg
Clip: 425666_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-012-04
HD: N/A
Location: Boston, Massachusetts
Timecode: 00:25:48 - 00:26:33

In Boston, an 18 year old boy recovers the use of his left leg, after it was severed in an auto accident. Six doctors rejoined the leg in a five hour operation. They said Jan Dangora s youth, strength and basic health gave him a big edge toward recovering the use of his limb. Exterior of Boston City Hospital. Jan Dangora lies in a hospital bed being consulted by his attending physician. His left foot is sticking out from beneath the blanket. Dangora sits in a wheelchair holding a crutch. His left leg is propped up and he is wiggling his toes. Jan walks with the aid of crutches. His mother gives him a hug. A happy ending to a tragic accident.

Nazi Trial WW II War Crimes
Clip: 425667_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1757
Original Film: 040-012-05
HD: N/A
Location: Germany, Munich
Timecode: 00:26:35 - 00:27:17

Three former Nazis stand trial in Munich for the mass murder of Dutch Jews including Anne Frank. Former S.S. officers Wilhelm Harster and Wilheim Zoepf and Secretary Gertrud Slottke are accused of mass deportation to death camps of thousands of Dutch Jews. Downtown Munich, people are stopping and reading protest signs. CU A poster/ picture of Dr. Edith Stein at the bottom it reads Harster Terrors". Interior scene of a court house. CU Wilhelm Harster. CU Wilhelm Zoepf. CU Gertrud Slottke. CU Prosecutor Robert Kempner speaking with another man who turns out to be a former Auschwitz prisoner. He pulls up his suit jacket sleeve exposing his tattooed prison camp ID number. High Angle shot three judges standing behind a long table. Exterior shot courthouse in Munich.

July 29, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 460076_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10054
Original Film: 102862
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(15:50:53) Senator Mack Let me go to the scene at the park because what I have implied here, with Ms. Braun, is that there was a loss of control at the house. Did you have a sense that you had lost control at the scene? 85 Ms. BRAUN. At the scene, no. Mr. ROLLA. No, no. Senator MACK. How about at the house? Mr. ROLLA. Control was not a factor. Going in to make the death notification we would like to do it our way. yeah, I guess if you want to call it control or whatever, we bad a certain way we would have liked to do it, but all those people showed up and, it was a terrible notification, terrible grief, and everything else going on. Yes, at that point we waited, that is why we were there so long, we waited until things calmed down and people seperated and we started to talk to certain people as much as we could, pretty much in bits and pieces. Senator MACK. Let me just take you to the issue that we discussed this morning, a pager. Mr. ROLLA. Please, please. Senator MACK. I am concerned about the pager being turned over to the White House, Mr. ROLLA. I am aware of that. Senator MACK. Is that normal procedure? Mr, ROLLA. Well, let me explain it to you. You go on the scene, you observe the facts that are there, and the facts that are there was that this was an apparent suicide. Not one fact then or has ever come forward since then to this day to say it was anything other, anything sinister, anything other than a suicide. With that in mind, a pager, the White House credentials on the pager were recorded, at least the pager was. I do not remember if I recorded the White House credentials because obviously I am going to give them back to the Secret Service. They may have been xeroxed. The pager brand was recorded, the name brand, the serial number was recorded, the pager was turned off. As far as any information on the pager, be could have turned it off at any time, and if anybody paged him while it was off, that does not tell me anything. If they paged him after be killed himself, it does not tell me anything. It does not tell me what time he turned it off because he could have had his last page 20 to 30 minutes before be turned it off, If it turned out something crazy, that it was a homicide, the FBI could have taken my report and the serial number to the pager company and subpoenaed the pager records and got all the calls that were paged to him that date. We turned it over to the Secret Service, yes, any property that belongs to the White House United States Government, the credentials and the pager, a matter of security, yes, it is proper procedure. I called them up, they wanted to come down and get it, and I turned it over to them after I recorded the information that I needed to get from it. I bad no further use for it, because there was nothing to say that this was anything other than a suicide. Senator MACK. So it is your opinion, then, when you gave up this pager that it was really unimportant? Mr. ROLLA. Right. At that time, I had the information I needed that if something important came up, the pager records could be 86 subpoenaed. Again, the pager was turned off. I did not believe there was anything on there. I have a pager, I turn it off, there's nothing, there's no memory on my pager. You know, possibly some pagers have memories. I did, not think of it, to be honest, and why, again this was a suicide investigation. What it could tell me we found out. Of course, family members and many other people were looking for him, he was a high White House official, they were paging him. My feeling was that was part of his suicide note. He turned his pager off. He was not going to receive any more messages, No, at that time I did not need it, and if I did need it, I could subpoena the records. The CHAiRmAN. Thank you. Senator Kerry,

Whitewater Hearings August 1, 1994 - Part 1
Clip: 460095_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10056
Original Film: 102864
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(10:45:43) The RTC is also cooperating fully with Special Counsel Fiske, the House Banking Committee, the Treasury Office of Inspector General, the RTC Office of Inspector General, the General Accounting Office, and the Office of Government Ethics in their investigation of various aspects of this matter. During my deposition before Counsel for this Committee and before Special Counsel Fiske, I have been asked a number of questions which generally fell into the following categories: No. I. how I came to be selected for this job; No 2 my authority as Deputy CEO, which was my position when most of the events that are the subject of this hearing occurred; No. 3, my relationship with Mr. Altman and the Administration; No. 4 my knowledge of and/or participation in the White House Treasury contacts; No. 5 , whether I was ever instructed or pressured by the TreasurY or the White House to influence the investigation or the outcome Of the investigation into Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan; and 4 No. 6, whether I have done anything to impede or change the results of the RTC's investigation. For example, did I tell the RTC Staff that I preferred a finding that Whitewater did not cause a loss to Madison? I will cover for the record, briefly, my summary of the answers to these questions. First of all, concerning how I was selected for this job, I can only report what I know. I received a hone call in December 1993, while I was in Atlanta with the OTS, from Frank Newman, Under Secretary of the Treasury, whom I had known professionally when he was with Bank of America and I was at the Federal Reserve. Mr. Newman's call came not long after the nomination of Mr. Stanley Tate, as CEO, had been withdrawn, and he asked if I would consider a temporary assignment at the RTC, I traveled to Washington for two interviews, one with Mr. Altman and one with Secretary Bentsen. Those interviews were the first time I had met either of those gentlemen, either Mr. Altman or Secretary Bentsen. I don't believe the subject of Madison Guaranty came up during the course of those interviews, as most of the discussions dealt with morale problems at the RTC and what could be done about them. At those interviews, I agreed to serve as Deputy CEO of the RTC. The position of Deputy CEO is a statutory one enacted in the RTC Completion Act. There was no Deputy CEO before me and, as a result, the existing RTC organizational structure and delegations of authority did not provide for a Deputy CEO when I arrived. In fact, some of the senior officials of the corporation, by law, were required to report directly to the CEO, The lack of clear authority in the RTC's corporate structure, together with the temporary the fact that the Deputy CEO, created a very challenging nature of my appointment Secretary of the Treasury remained environment in which to assume operating responsibility. Obviously, much of my time in the early days was spent trying to gain an understanding and some control over an organization that is surprisingly decentralized with functional units operating independently of each other. The precise decisionmaking responsibility is not only difficult to explain under such circumstances, but my observation is that it is often not clear to those working at the RTC as well. During my tenure as Deputy CEO, I reported directly to Mr. Altman, who was the Interim CEO. It should be noted that Mr. Altman essentially withdrew from active RTC management following the February 24, 1994, Senate Banking Committee's RTC Semiannual Oversight Board bearing, some 7 weeks after my arrival. During the period preceding the hearing, regular meetings were scheduled to discuss RTC matters. But due to Mr. Altman's busy schedule, many of these meetings never took place.

July 29, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 460077_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10054
Original Film: 102862
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(15:55:34) Senator KERRY. Officer Rolla, you were asked earlier about this question of moving up the autopsy. It is agreed that the autopsy was moved up by a day, Isthat correct, doctor? Dr. BEYER. Well, as soon as I heard about the case, I had the body transported over, and we make every effort to do an autopsy within less than 24 hours if possible. Therefore, once I could get the body over, we proceeded with the autopsy. Senator KERRY. But did you receive a message, doctor, asking you to try to proceed faster than normal? Dr. BEYER. No, sir. Senator KERRY. It is my understanding that Major Hines, who is sitting behind you but not at the table, that his recollection is different, and that he believes that the request to move it up was in order to facilitate the transfer of the body to Arkansas. Is that accurate, Mr. Rolla? Do you remember that, Ms. Braun? Ms. BRAUN. That was my understanding, when we left that morning, the autopsy was set for the day after the 22nd, and then I found out later on in the day that it had gotten moved up and that they did the post on the 21st. Senator KERRY. And it was your understanding that that was in order to facilitate the transfer of the remains to Arkansas? Ms. BRAUN. Yes, that is my recollection, Senator KERRY. Now, doctor, whether or not there was any request to move the time of the autopsy up, this would obviously call into question whether or not there was any reason for so doing. And I ask you, sir, whether or not, in the course of any of the 20,000 autopsies you have performed, you have ever altered, changed, or adjusted the outcome of your autopsy to fit anybody's requirements or schedule? Dr. BEYER. Not anybody else's schedule to me. We may alter it to fit our own schedule. Senator KERRY. I understand that, but have you altered the findings, what you determined in the course of autopsy, did you change that or alter any finding, as a consequence of anything anyone asked you to do in this case? Dr. BEYER. No, sir. Senator KERRY. Have you ever done that in any case? Dr. BEYER. No, sir. 87 Senator KERRY. So irrespective of the timing, you are saying to us that the findings with respect to this autopsy are true and accurate and as you found them to be at the time. Is that correct? Dr. BEYER. That is correct. Senator KERRY. Now, irrespective of what you learned that night when you went to the Foster's house, did either you, Mr. Rolla, or you Ms. Braun, find that anything that you subsequently learned from the family that you could not learn that very night, did that alter, in any way, the perceptions or conclusions you drew at the scene at Fort Marcy? Mr. ROLLA. I do not believe either one of us had any access to the family after that night. Other investigators and Captain Hume may have. Senator KERRY. But you learned things afterwards? Mr, ROLLA. Right. Like I said, nothing from the day, from that scene until today has ever altered my opinion that It is a suicide. Ms. BRAUN. That goes for myself also. When I went to the scene, observed the scene, and when I left, as far as I was concerned, I was dealing with a suicide and there was nothing to show me anything different. Senator KERRY. There are really three parts to the involvement here of the Park Police, One is at the scene, two is at the Foster house, and three is at the White House. You were not present at the White House, correct? Ms. BRAUN. I was never involved. Senator KERRY. So you cannot testify to any of that? Ms. BRAUN. No. Senator KERRY. You can testify as to your presence at the Foster house and there you used the word "stonewalled," and I want to be ' absolutely clear when the word, stonewalled, comes up that were clear about what we're talking about. Senator ROTH. MT. Chairman, could we ask the witnesses to speak into the microphones, please? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. These microphones aren't the strongest, and I think, Ms. Braun's trying to do that, Maybe if you tip it just a little bit, that will help. Those will bend. You just have to push them a little bit, senator KERRY. Looking at your deposition, Mr. Rolla, where you were asked previously about your presence there, you used the word "stonewalled," you were referring exclusively to family members who at that time were distraught. Is that correct? Air. ROLLA. That is correct. Senator KERRY, But no official or no one at the White House stonewalled you at that point in time. Is that accurate? Mr. ROLLA. That is very accurate. Senator KERRY, is that correct, Ms. Braun? Ms. BRAUN. Yes, I would say that is accurate. Senator KERRY. So your perception of stonewalling is on]), as to distraught family members 1 hour after you had been at the scene of the suicide? Mr. ROLLA. My meaning of stonewalling is that, yes, right. I guess it sounds worse than I meant it. Yes, we were stonewalled and again, I explain that by the fact that they had information 88 about depression, different things, and we were given no information Senator KERRY. Now, no one at any time whatsoever pressured you into what you should put into your report, did they? Mr. ROLLA. No. Senator KERRY. Ms. Braun? Ms. BRAUN. No.

Helicopter
Clip: 425497_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1767
Original Film: 040-098-05
HD: N/A
Location: The base of a ski resort
Timecode: -

A giant "Skycrane" helicopter lifts a 5-ton section of ski-lodge, transporting it from trailer truck to mountainside foundation in a matter of minutes. It's one of the biggest air lifts of its kind. A 16-wheeler pulls into a parking lot with a big load. A helicopter hovers above it and lowers a hook down. The helicopter has had its passenger compartment removed to minimize its weight, but maximize its lift. Lifting the cargo, a long rectangular unit that looks like a mobile home, the helicopter carries it over a tree line.

Tightrope
Clip: 425498_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1767
Original Film: 040-098-06
HD: N/A
Location: French countryside
Timecode: -

French tightrope-walker Henri Rochatein attempts a tightrope balancing endurance records, cramped on a wire 360 feet over a lake, where he plans to stay for two weeks! A French couple makes out before the macho stud leaves on a tightrope walk across a mountain's valley. Two laborers crank a wench keeping the rope taught. The long balancing pole tilts left and right as the walker's cute little slippers grip the rope with love. A load of supplies moves in front of him. A cameraman snaps pictures. An aerial view depicts the stud against the gay French countryside.

July 29, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 460078_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10054
Original Film: 102862
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(16:01:05) Senator KERRY. No one at any time suggested to you that you should find certain things or alter any conclusions you had drawn, did they? Mr. ROLLA. No. Ms. BRAUN. No, sir. Senator KERRY. And nothing that you have learned since, either through the Fiske investigation or through the FBI investigation, has altered one bit your early conclusion that this was a suicide? Is that accurate? Ms. BRAUN. That is accurate. It is confirmed. Senator KERRY, Thank you. The CHAIRMAN. Is that true for you, Mr. Rolla? Mr. ROLLA. Same for me. The CHAIRMAN. Very good. Senator Bennett. Senator BENNETT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Rolla, I would like to go along the same path that Senator Bond did and take you through some of the statements you made during your deposition to get them on the record here. So I will read to you a statement from your deposition, giving you a page number, and ask if that is still your present understanding. This is at the scene. You are asking questions of official people, and your answer is: "No, after again, I did not know who he was, even being in the White House, I was not overly concerned. Like I said, a million people work in the White House, but until such time as it started picking up all these people, trail of people following us to the house, I realized this guy is fairly important. And when the President of the United States walked in, then it dawned on me. I realized the White House is going to do whatever they want to do." Is that pretty much what happened as you went through that circumstance, thinking Foster was just another White House staffer and then Mr. ROLLA. Well, obviously, I am not very politically savvy. I did not know who he was. He bad a White House pager and a White House I.D. and many people work at the White House have Arkansas tags. A lot of people came from Arkansas with the President. You are right, I did not know, and until an entourage started arriving at the house, and we started Finding out a little bit more, that Mr. Foster was more than a staffer or just an employee of the White House, a little higher official. And then, I guess I was dumbfounded when the President of the United States walked in, and I realized, oops. Senator BENNETT. Who would not be? I mean, I am not criticizing you. 89 Mr. ROLLA. I have worked Presidential detail and I have been around, but when he walked in the house, I realized that obviously this was a higher White House official and a friend, Senator BENNETT. And that is when you realized the White House was going to do whatever they wanted to do in your phrase now? Mr. ROLLA. Wait. Senator BENNETT. This has to do with the autopsy, Mr. ROLLA. No, you are talking about the autopsy, about them moving up. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Bennett, I think he, wanted to make a comment to clear up a misperception and I think he should have the chance to do that. Senator BENNETT. OK, fine. Mr. ROLLA. I just wanted him to clarify. I was not sure to what question I made that statement, that the White House can do whatever they want. I did say, yes, right as far as the autopsy was concerned, meaning if the White House wanted that autopsy moved up a day, they were going to get it. And people Keep looking at me, well, why? It is the White House, it is the President of the United States, the White House, do people find that odd? The CHAiRmAN. No, I do not find it odd. Mr. ROLLA. You know, they want something, they get it. [Laughter.] I mean, that is not--I do not find that odd. Senator BENNETT. Neither do I. Mr. ROLLA. I am sorry, I did not mean to be funny or- Senator BENNETT. OK, then I'll go on to page 135, you are asked the question: "Did you feel that the presence of White House or Government people made your investigation more difficult?" This is a slightly different question than the first one. And this was your answer. "I feel this way. Mr. Watkins and his wife, who played tennis with her earlier that day, they were obviously friends of the family. I had no problem with that. I feel too many other people came in there. I do not know who was who, but I later found out Web Hubbell, he spent the whole time on the phone like there were official things going on there. It made my job difficult because we were not given access as fully as we would have liked with Mrs. Foster." Is that an accurate statement?

United Nations
Clip: 425412_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-087-04
HD: N/A
Location: New York City, New York
Timecode: 00:44:46 - 00:45:11

"The UN Security Council condemns the renewed fighting in the Middle East, but refrains from placing blame. Russia wanted Israel held responsible. U.S. Ambassador Goldberg urges prompt action toward a final Middle East settlement." High angle LSs United Nations Security Council in session, council members sitting at circular table; zoom in and pan as delegates raise hands in vote.

Preparations for Coronation of Shah of Iran
Clip: 425413_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-087-05
HD: N/A
Location: Tehran, Iran
Timecode: 00:45:11 - 00:46:07

"The city of Tehran prepares for the long-awaited Coronation of the Shah of Iran and his Empress. Decorations, flags, lights all add to the excitement and anticipation. For 26 years the Shah delayed his coronation until he produced an heir and strengthened his tiny nation's economy." Panning TLS city streets of Tehran decorated for the coronation. TLS pedestrians walking along a sidewalk decorated with flags. Family pictures of the royal family: Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Empress Faraj Pahlavi & Crown Prince Reza. 3/4 view TLS Golestan Palace. MS small Iranian flags hanging over sidewalk. TLS/MSs massive reproduction of the emperor's crown outside building. TLSs another reproduction of Shah's crown, this one made of lightbulbs, lit up at night.

Marine Hero
Clip: 425414_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-087-06
HD: N/A
Location: Washington, DC
Timecode: 00:46:07 - 00:46:40

"Marine Major Howard Lee is awarded the nation's highest military decoration, the Medal of Honor, for heroism in Vietnam. His 3-year old son, Michael contently rests on the floor!" LS lawn of the White House cast in a light haze. MS President LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON (LBJ) presenting USN Major Howard Lee with the Medal of Honor. MSs Ms. Lee, son & daughter in attendance. MS cute young boy sprawled on floor during ceremony; tilt up to Mr. & Mrs. Lee, neither looking very happy.

Karate Demonstration
Clip: 425415_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-087-07
HD: N/A
Location: New York City, New York
Timecode: 00:46:40 - 00:47:14

"Manhattan is the scene of a lunch-hour Karate demonstration where two experts pummel one another and smash a thick board with one chop!" Panning TLS crowd gathered outside Chemical Bank, standing behind police carrier. TLS/MSs two Caucasian men in white karate gi with black belts demonstrating karate on platform for crowd. TLSs crowd behind barrier applauding. Kicks, chops, punches, etc. The art of self-defense. MS man breaking wood with hand.

July 29, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 460079_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10054
Original Film: 102862
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(16:05:45) Mr. ROLLA. Yes. Again, the transcript does not read so well. You are right, and obviously both sisters are family and other friends that arrived on that scene also. They had a legitimate reason to be there and grieve also. But the whole point I was making was there was too many people there for an ideal situation for us. And that was beyond our control and as far as Mr. Hubbell, yes, he stayed on a cellular phone most of the time, and obviously since Mr. Foster [Laughter.] was a high White House official, there were some calls to be made. Foster's senator BENNETT. OK. Now we're talking about on page 162, the Oster's documents, the ones that you were allowed to look at, and You were asked "Did the Park Police consider the diary to be evidence in the case?" 90 You answered: "No. Again, when we were finally told we could look, then Hamilton did not want us to look at the diary. He said it is personal and there was a little bit of a stink. He said we cannot look at this, and we said, we're going to look at it. All of it is possible evidence. Once we reviewed it, there was no evidence of anything of value." Mr. ROLLA, That is correct. Senator BENNETT. Do you recall that? Mr. ROLLA. That is correct. Senator BENNETT. Mr. Hamilton tried to prevent you, and you prevailed? Mr. ROLLA. Well, Mr. Hamilton asked us did we really have to look at it. It was personal, He did not see a need for us to look at it. And we told him, we need to look at it. We will decide whether we need to look at it, it is evidence. We're not here to embarrass anybody, but if there's evidentiary value in it, we're basically still investigating an apparent suicide, and that is what we're looking for. An thing to help with that or detract from that and lead us another direction. Senator BENNETT. On page 1-07, you were asked- "Was the police access to those papers unusual? Is that unusual for you in a case?" You say: "Everything was unusual. As I said, these papers came from his office in the White House, That is a high official of the Federal Government. To get those. papers, Park Police did not search that office, FBI did not search that office, Secret Service did not search that office. They were told to sit down while eight or nine attorneys searched that office. White House personnel searched that office and decided what would be OK to give to Mr. Hamilton to look at before he would give it to us to look at." Then you say, over on the next page, "In a normal case, that guy's files would have been in my trunk and I would 'nave taken them to my office to look at them." Mr. ROLLA. Actually, the last statement was, I attribute that to Detective Markland. He made that comment earlier on in the case when he was asked about it being a normal case, and it was not a normal case. Senator BENNETT. Oh, 1 see, Mr. ROLLA. He made that statement. The guy's files would be in my trunk. As far as the rest of the statement, yes; right, it is not a normal case. Senator BENNETT. OK, fine, Thank you. I will Just go through this in following on to what Senator Bond laid down to make it fairly clear that this was not handled as a normal case, I am not saying there's anything sinister about that, and I am, not saying there's anything improper in your behavior with respect to that, but I think we should face the obvious. When a high official in the White House, who happens to be a very close personnel, friend of both the President and the First Lady commits suicide, it is a fiction to try to say to the newspapers: Oh, the whole inves- tigation was handled in a routine fashion. It is impossible under,, those circumstances for it to be handled in a routine fashion. The very circumstances require that we recognize that people are going to be involved who would not normally be involved. 91 The only thing, Mr. Chairman, that concerns me out of all of these that I have laid down has been the final statement which we have zone over that takes, us into the White House and the report that the Park Police were not allowed access to those papers; the FBI was not allowed access to those papers; the Secret Service was not allowed access to those papers. Instead, eight or nine attorneys on the White House personnel went in ahead. That is the only thing that I find troublesome in this circumstance. Thank you,

Coronation of the Shah of Iran
Clip: 425418_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-088-02
HD: N/A
Location: Tehran, Iran
Timecode: 00:49:11 - 00:50:22

"After 26 years, the Shah of Iran crowns himself King of Kings and his Empress, Farah, the first crowned Queen in his nation's history. Pomp and splendor recalls Old Persia as the new Monarch pledges more progress and prosperity for Iran." TLS Golestan Palace in Iran. TLS "Hall of Mirrors" inside Golestan Palace (looks more like Reception Hall Museum than Mirror Hall). MS ornate chandelier in hall. MS Shah of Iran (Mohammad Reza Pahlavi) walking slowly through hallway to throne, uniformed officers accompanying him with sabres drawn. TLS/MS dignitaries in attendance. TLSs Shah Pahlavi stepping before Peacock Throne; he crowns himself. TLS Shah of Iran crowning Empress Farah Pahlavi, becoming the first crowned queen of Iran. Panning TLS Iranian royal family (Shah, Empress and Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi) sitting in thrones.

Pope Meets Patriach
Clip: 425419_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-088-03
HD: N/A
Location: Vatican City, Italy
Timecode: 00:50:22 - 00:51:07

"Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras, head of the Eastern Orthodox faith, meet at the Vatican for church unity talks. The mood is optimistic and a permanent reunification commission may be formed." MS Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras walking through hallway with Church officials, Vatican guards accompanying. MS Pope Paul VI greeting Patriarch Athenagoras, the two shaking hands. MSs Pope Paul VI presenting Patriarch Athenagoras with a jewel-encrusted crucifix. MSs bishops & cardinals watching on. MSs Pope Paul VI presenting Patriarch Athenagoras with frame-like gift.

Boston Whaler Boats in Vietnam
Clip: 425420_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1765
Original Film: 040-088-04
HD: N/A
Location: Vietnam
Timecode: 00:51:07 - 00:51:38

"Lightweight, speedy, maneuverable Boston Whaler boats do river patrol duty in Vietnam. They overtake and inspect boats for Viet Cong weapons and supplies." Tracking shot U.S. soldiers riding in speedboat along river in Vietnam. River patrol. Panning MS American soldiers on boat, one soldier wearing communications headset. TLS American patrol boat approaching sampan piloted by Vietnamese men. MSs soldiers searching the boat's cargo hold for contraband. MS soldier using land mine detector, scanning deck. Tracking TLS speedboat moves on, away from cam.

July 29, 1994 - Part 4
Clip: 460080_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10054
Original Film: 102862
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(16:10:28) Mr. ROLLA. Well, if I might say something? The CHAIRMAN. Yes, Mr. Rolla, you wanted to make a comment. Mr. ROLLA. Again, I was not there, Detective Marklin and the Captain of the Park Police were there when the office was searched. There were misconceptions in the paper. Park Police searched this and missed this note, Again, I just wanted to say that we didn't "search." We were told to sit down. I'm not sure now many people were there, 8 to 11 maybe White House personnel who searched the office, for reasons of national security I guess, and decided what we would be able for us to look at. And that material was turned over to the family attorney. After he had it for a day or so, then we were allowed to look at it. The CHAIRMAN. I think we have made it clear, Senator Bennett has made his point, and you have indicated this is your understanding. You were not at the White House. Mr. ROLLA. That is correct. The CHAIRMAN. So I guess we have to leave It at that for now. Senator Bryan. Senator BRYAN. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I think it is clear beyond any reasonable doubt to any fair-minded person that the cause of Mr. Foster's death was suicide. All of the evidence that we have seen, all of the testimony we have received reaches that conclusion. I have no further questions along that line. Senator Bennett and others have raised questions about access to papers and access to Mr. Foster's office. As the Chairman 'has reminded us, and as Special Counsel 'has admonished us, this is not the appropriate time to go into those questions. There may, in fact, be a legitimate basis for inquiry, but I do not want anybody to have the misapprehension that there is no interest on this side of the table to inquire further about that. We are simply told that this is not the time to inquire, and that none of ,is want to jeopardize the investigation that Mr. Fiske is conductIng. For that reason, that ought to be not the subject or focus of the hearing. I thin Senator Kerry asked the most important question, and I want to make sure that I cover one other aspect about it. Is it Your testimony that no one attempted to either influence the contents or the conclusions of any of the reports, statements, or tes- imony that you have offered either by deposition or in person with respect to this investigation? Mr. ROLLA. No one, Senator BRYAN. And yours? Ms. BRAUN. No one. Senator BRYAN. I have no further questions The CHAIRMAN. Thank you. Senator Faircloth. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Braun, the Park Police did not seal Foster's office, but you did instruct David Watkins to secure Foster's office until the Park Police could secure it? Ms. BRAUN. That's correct. Before I left the death notification, I asked that Mr. Watkins take care of having that office secured. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Of course, Davod Watkins is the former White House Director of Administration who resigned with some disgrace race after taking helicopters on a golf outing. But instead of sealing Foster's office, you asked Watkins to do it. Now it is my understanding you called Watkins the night of Foster's death and asked -him to do this, and he said he would? Ms. BRAUN. As I said, before I left the notification scene I asked for him to ensure that that was done. Senator FAIRCLOTH. But he didn't. That evening, Bernard Nussbaum, Maggie Williams, and Patsy Thomason made an unauthorized entry into Foster's office and took the Whitewater files. They kept the Whitewater documents out of the hands of law enforcement authorities. The CHAIRMAN. I think Senator Dodd. Mr. Chairman, that is not a question for this session. That is getting into a whole other area that we have already agreed is not going to be a subject here. The CHAIRMAN. Let me just raise a concerned here, Senator Faircloth. I think anything at this point that moves us over into the area of the documents that were in the office, how they were 'handled, who did what, where they went, I think that clearly in my view is what Mr. Fiske has said he is pursuing, and he is not fin ished with that, and he has asked us in writing to leave that aside until a later time. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Well, if this does not get right into the Park investigation, we are not asking what was in the files. I am just saying, did they take them? You know, it is my understanding that he was saying you cannot get into what was in the files. My question is merely the handling of the material itself. I am not pursuing what was in them, I just want to know how it was handled.

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