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20.10.51-ROBERTS-The SENATE has come up with a BUDGET proposal incorporating some TAX INCREASES, some DEFENSE CUTS, and FREEZE on DOMESTIC SPENDING, plus SOCIAL SECURITY CUTS. REAGAN has given blessing to the proposal, drafted by Sen. PETE DOMENICI (R-NM). 20.11.41-Shot of Sens. DOMENICI and WALTER MONDALE, joking around about the BUDGET DEBATE. Shots of SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE session, DOMENICI with big binder of pages. Shot of Sen. J.D. JOHNSTON (D-LA), asks whether the HOUSE and the PRESIDENT will approve the bill, is the SENATE just wasting its time. Shot of DOMENICI, says that the answers will be known sometime soon. JOHNSTON argues that REAGAN has been so intransigent that CONGRESS doesn't know what to do. DOMENICI doesn't have an answer to that. Shot of Sen. CHARLES GRASSLEY (R-Iowa), arguing that the budget debate is a time to make tough choices. ROBERTS v.o.-discussion of the political haggling in the Senate Committee over taxes and spending. Shot of Sen. ROBERT KASTEN (R-WI), says the TAX CUTS must continue. Shot of Sen. HOWARD METZENBAUM (D-OH), argues that the DOMENICI proposal will still hurt the poor. Shot of Sen. PAT MOYNIHAN (D-NY), says that the SENATE needs to get its business straight, because SENATORS come to the BUDGET COMMITTEE and argue for BALANCED BUDGETS and then go back to other Committees and vote for more spending on PORK. DOMENICI calls a vote on "self-denial rule" in jest. Members laugh. 20.15.40-Shot of REAGAN giving press conference on back porch of WHITE HOUSE, REPORTERS yelling their questions, mostly about SOCIAL SECURITY CUTS. REAGAN offers a confused explanation that the CUTS aren't really CUTS. Shot of HOWARD BAKER and BOB DOLE at a press conference. BAKER says the DEMOCRATS are too eager to attack the REPUBLICANS about SOCIAL SECURITY, that the plan is really reasonable and fair. 20.16.28-DUKE/ROBERTS-discussion of BUDGET DEBATE. DEMOCRATS surprised by the REPUBLICAN proposal, but now they know what to do to counter the REPUBLICANS. It doesn't mean the matter is close to resolution. DUKE intro report on FARM ISSUES. 20.18.11-Shot of TOM DASCHLE addressing press conference, holding a scrapbook of all the FARM AUCTION SALES in SOUTH DAKOTA in a month and a half. Says that farmers are going broke. Shot of a committee meeting, Rep. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa) blaming REAGAN for the problems of FARMERS, says that FARMERS voted for REAGAN in 1980 and REAGAN has ignored them ever since. Shots of DEBATE on House floor, Rep. JAMIE WHITTEN (D-MS), says there's a depression going on in agriculture, that REAGAN'S policies are a lot like HOOVER'S. shot of Rep. PAT WILLIAMS (D-MT), says that all AMERICANS need FARMERS and their work. Shot of Rep. BYRON DORGAN (D-ND), says that REAGAN is refusing to meet with CONGRESS on FARM ISSUES. 20.21.13-Shot of Rep. PAT ROBERTS (R-KS), defends REAGAN'S concern for FARM ISSUES. Shot of Rep. BOB WALKER (R-PA), blames DEMOCRATS for the problems of FARMERS. Shot of Rep. GEORGE WORTLEY (R-NY), says that 1980's have not been easy for FARMERS, but REAGAN'S policies are going to bring about recovery soon. 20.22.17-DUKE-next week, a BIPARTISAN PANEL of CONGRESS will host a CALL-IN session for FARMERS to air their suggestions and grievances to CONGRESS. Intro report on bizarre resolutions passed by Congress. 20.23.04-Shot of a SQUARE DANCE CALLER, shots of SQUARE DANCERS. DUKE v.o.-Bill by Sen. ROBERT BYRD was to make SQUARE DANCING the National folk dance of the U.S.. Shot of HENRY HYDE (R-IL), proponent of SQUARE DANCING, jokes that "I'm pretty square to begin with". More shots of square dancers, the dance is intended to lobby HOUSE to vote for the SQUARE DANCING BILL. Shots of Rep. LEON PANETTA (D-CA) dancing and seated, says SQUARE DANCING is more fun than the BUDGET DEBATE. More shots of SQUARE DANCING. DUKE v.o.-the HOUSE didn't voted only to make SQUARE DANCING the national folk dance only for 1982, not permanently. 20.24.53-ROBERTS-intro commentary. Commentary by Otis PIKE on the treatment by CONGRESS of the FALKLAND ISLANDS issue, says that debate was inadequate and half-hearted, but definitely pro-British. 20.26.57-DUKE-signs off. Credits roll over shots of SQUARE DANCING. Closing Credits/transcript order information/sponsor credits/WETA credit/PBS ID. 20.28.50--OUT
LAWMAKERS - "4th District Candidates"
Senior Correspondent Paul Duke introduces report on election race in the Northeast where old districts outside of Boston have been combined, pitting incumbent U.S. Representative Barney Frank (D-MA) against incumbent Margaret Heckler (R-MA). Janet Wu (VO) gives background information on the race between Heckler and Frank as the verbal sparring between campaigns becomes fierce. Heckler speaking to group of adult Caucasian male and female reporters on street while Frank does the same with another group of reporters adjacent to Heckler. Debate room with the candidates, moderators; middle-aged and elderly adult Caucasian men and women watch. Heckler says her record is more representative of the district than Frank's; Frank responds with a quip; Heckler, having served five Presidents, defends her independent streak and provides anecdote from her battle with U.S. President Richard Nixon to secure veteran's education funding. Wu (VO) says Frank and the Democrats want the election to be a referendum on Reaganomic policies unpopular in the 4th district. Frank taking podium; adult Caucasian female aide standing behind him. 4th Congressional District boundaries in Massachusetts. Wu (VO) describes suburban liberals and blue collar workers in old mill towns of southern Massachusetts forming anti-Reagan coalition, also mentions major voting bloc in the district is the elderly. Frank chairing public hearing for House Select committee on aging; elderly Caucasian women in the audience. Wu (VO) says Heckler was not expected at the hearing but at the last minute managed to get re-assigned to the committee in an effort to prevent Frank wooing voters alone. Frank joking, introduces Heckler as the newest member of the committee; audience laughing. Wu (VO) mentions Heckler having trouble with women's groups, but as the ranking female member of Congress she intends to remind voters of importance of her presence in D.C. Heckler speaking and shaking hands with middle-aged adult Caucasian men at campaign luncheon.
Ginsburg Confirmation Hearings - 101/1
U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) continues statement: "That trend has diminished somewhat in recent years, with the nomination and confirmation of individuals anchored in the Constitution and individuals who have a deferential approach to the political accountable branches of government. Some political activists, including some of my distinguished colleagues on this committee, are hoping your presence on the Court will bring back an era of political judging. But that view shows a misunderstanding of the role of the Supreme Court. Your fidelity to the Constitution, your appreciation of its framework of limited powers, and your understanding of the role of Congress and the States in making law—these are the important qualities. In addition, and no less important, a Justice must possess an open mind, or what Justice Frankfurter called 'a capacity of disinterested judgment.' I look forward to exploring these ideas in greater detail with you during these hearings. Once again, I say congratulations to you and all your friends and your family." Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg sitting, listening. Senate Judiciary Committee members Joseph Biden (D-DE), Arlen Specter (R-PA), Alan Simpson (R-WY), Chuck Grassley, Howard Metzenbaum (D-OH), Howell Heflin (D-AL), Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), Paul Simon (D-IL), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Herbert Kohl (D-WI), and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA); adult Caucasian and African American male and female staffers sitting behind them, and mostly Caucasian adult male and female photographers sitting under panel. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Joe Biden recognizes Senator Leahy." Sen. Leahy: "Judge, I welcome you and your family. I think this has been an exciting trip for you and your family, from your time in Vermont when you got the call from the White House to being here today." Chairman Biden: "I wondered how you were going to get Vermont into this." Sen. Leahy: "Your wondering is on your time, Mr. Chairman." Judge Ginsburg smiling.
Voting Rights Act Extension
Chairman of the Whole House and Rep. Richard Bolling (D-MO) introducing U.S. House Representative Dan Lungren (R-CA): "Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk." Chairman Bolling: "Clerk will report the amendment." Adult Caucasian male clerk reads: "An amendment offered by Mr. Lungren..." Interruption off camera forces the gavel to be banged. Chairman Bolling: "The business of the committee will be expedited if we have the regular order. The regular order is order. Clerk will report the amendment." Adult Caucasian male clerk reads: "An amendment offered by Mr. Lungren of California; on page 9, line 7, insert "(a)" after "Sec. 3.". On page 9, after line 9, insert the following: "(b) Section 203 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 is amended by striking out ', including ballots," each place it appears in subsections (b), (c), and (d) and inserting '(other than ballots)' in lieu thereof." Chairman Bolling: "Gentleman from California is recognized for five minutes." Rep. Lungren: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I realize that the hour is late. I realize that it is difficult asking the indulgence of this body ten minutes after kickoff time, but I did give my commitment to some members, particularly on the other side of the aisle, that I would offer this amendment. This amendment deals with the same subject that was the subject of the last amendment, but there is one major difference. This makes one simple change in section 203; and that is, it limits the ability of the federal government to require bilingual assistance, to assist in materials, voting assistance, oral or printed, ballot facsimiles, things of this nature. The reason I offer this amendment is that during the hearings we constantly heard from those defending the provisions that in fact bilingual ballots were not required, and in fact if a jurisdiction showed that it made a good faith effort to create ballot facsimiles, materials, assistance, etc., it would not be required. It was never clear..."
August 2, 1994 - Part 5
(16:15:34) Moreover, it isn't clear whether recusing oneself in the absence of such re- quirements is entirely appropriate either, and the Office of Govern- ment Ethics Report questions whether I ultimately made the right decision to recuse or instead had a duty to serve. I don't think that taking 3 weeks to make such a complex decision is all that surprising. But again, the important point is that I recused myself without ever having participated in any decisions on Madison. Not one decision. Let me address now the issues which have been raised about my February 24 testimony before this Committee. I have a deep respect for our system of Government, the role of the Congress, and the importance of testimony by the Executive Branch. Our system cannot function properly without honest communication among the three branches. It is the equivalent of a sacred trust. Now, I testified many times during my 4 years in the Carter ministration, and during my service in this Administration. And have always tried my best to testify in the most forthright way. realize that, in retrospect, my testimony of February 24 may appear too narrow or perhaps incomplete. I regret that that perception 411 and I apologize for it. But I want to emphasize that there was never any intent to--never any intent, Mr. Chairman-to mislead this Committee. I prepared for that testimony with 10 or 15 members of RTC and Treasury staff, and my answers were in line with the responses developed by that group. The relevant exchanges on Madison Guaranty that day consumed less than 10 minutes. I thought that my answers were responsive to the questions I was asked. Given an opportunity to do it all over again, I would have added more information, but my intention was to testify forthrightly, as I have always tried to do. And I hope I can reassure you of that today. Let me be quite specific about my testimony on February 24. Senator Gramm asked me if I, or any member of my staff, had any communication with the White House regarding Whitewater or Madison Guaranty. I answered that I bad one substantive contact. Senator Gramm asked me to describe the substance of that one contact. I described the February 2 meeting at the White House and the discussion about the generic procedures that the RTC would follow when a statute of limitations was about to expire, I did not mention the meetings between Ms. Hanson and others at the White House on September 24 and October 14 because I was not aware of them at the time of my testimony on February 24. On March 2, 1 week later, I received a call from Mr. Podesta of the White House. He asked me, in effect, about "the other two meetings." I had never beard of them and told him so and Mr. Cutler's chronology is clear on that point. I promptly called Ms. Hanson and Mr. Steiner who confirmed the existence of those two fall meetings, Neither challenged my statement to them that I'd not heard of them previously. I then prepared and sent a letter to the Chairman of this Committee indicating that I had just learned of two meetings in the fall, my impression that they related to press inquiries, and I wanted to expand the record accordingly. I believe that I also spoke by telephone to Senator Riegle before sending that letter. I wanted this Committee to have the new information immediately. I telephoned Senator Bond, who bad asked the original question. I also wanted to advise him immediately. We had a cordial conversation, and he thanked me for alerting him. Ms. Hanson testified yesterday that her discussion in September 1993 1 was at my request. I do not believe that to be the case. Recollections can differ, of course, especially on events that occurred 5 months earlier. There is nothing unusual in that. I just disagree with her recollection.
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ROBERTS-intro report on CENSURE of two Congressmen, Rep. DANIEL CRANE (R-IL) and Rep. GERRY STUDDS (D-MA) for sexual misconduct with congressional pages. Both were required to appear in the Well of the House for public reading of their Censure. 20.16.18-M/S House rostrum and well, STUDDS standing in well while TIP O'NEILL reads CENSURE RESOLUTION. Wipe to similar shot with Rep. CRANE. ROBERTS v.o.-only 21 previous censures in House. C/S of a member of House ETHICS COMMITTEE presenting findings, ROBERTS v.o.-committee recommended milder response of reprimand. M/S Rep. STUDDS taking well of House to speak. ROBERTS v.o.-STUDDS spoke to defend his conduct and announced publicly that he is gay. C/S STUDDS speaking, says that voluntary and private relationships between adults that occurred 10 years ago should not be investigated by Congress. 20.17.18-Shot of Rep. CRANE with family in Illinois, giving press conference in front of his house while holding his young daughter. CRANE, tearful, admits he made a mistake, asks for forgiveness. C/S NEWT GINGRICH in office, says that CRANE has admitted his mistake but STUDDS has been arrogant and denied wrongdoing. ROBERTS v.o.-GINGRICH pressed the issue to try to make political points. M/S GINGRICH taking podium in well of house. C/S GINGRICH, says the conduct of both congressmen warrants expulsion. C/S former Rep. ROBERT BAUMAN, says GINGRICH definitely wants to make REPUBLICANS seem like the party of MORALS. ROBERTS v.o.-BAUMAN lost an election after being charged with soliciting a teenaged boy for sex. BAUMAN says that the publicity of the case will allow voters to decide the issue, Congress shouldn't take it upon itself to vote for EXPULSION. 20.19.36-C/S TIP O'NEILL in speaker's seat. C/S Rep. DAN CRANE giving apology in well, gets applause. C/S Rep. FLOYD SPENCE (R-SC), arguing that Congress has to protect it's reputation. C/S HENRY HYDE arguing that Congress can "hate the sin" but should back off of punishing the sinners. [whoa, what a difference 15 years can make, eh Henry?] C/S Rep. GEORGE O'BRIEN (R-IL) argues that he can't tell his constituents that there shouldn't be punishment. Rep. STEWART McKINNEY (R-CT), says he can't vote for expulsion because it would amount to Congress overriding the people's votes in each district. ROBERTS v.o.-no CENSURED member of Congress has won re-election in 50 years. C/S BAUMAN, says the voters are the proper decision-makers as to whether STUDDS of CRANE should remain in Congress. 20.21.55-Shots of a bundle of Massachusetts newspapers rolling into back of truck. ROBERTS v.o.-early on, STUDDS' constituents seem to be giving him some support. C/S a woman from district, says she's a REPUBLICAN but she supports STUDDS. A man says he's disappointed, but "not surprised". A man in his car says STUDDS is a smart guy in Congress and it would be bad to throw out anyone who ever did anything wrong. Shots of an ILLINOIS COUNTY FAIR. C/S a very fat man says that someone in prominent position "shouldn't be doin' things like that". Another man concurs. C/S BAUMAN, says it's a silly myth that the people's representatives should somehow be morally better than the people. BAUMAN says that there are no moral absolutes in the lives of Members of Congress, some slip, they're only human. 20.24.23-DUKE-intro commentary. Commentary by Charles McDowell, on the trend of "commissions" to study all tough issues-it shouldn't be surprising that REAGAN is trying to hedge a bit off his conservative rhetoric on LATIN AMERICA by appointing KISSINGER commission, after all, Congress has to vote on any recommendation that comes out of it. 20.26.12-DUKE-signs off Closing credits/transcript order information/WETA credit/sponsor credits/PBS ID
August 3, 1994 - Part 2
(11:15:19) OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR MACK Senator MACK. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And welcome, Mr. Secretary. Secretary BENTSEN. Thank you, Senator. Senator MACK. I want to begin by focusing on something that struck me the other day when we were discussing some matters with Mr. Roelle. One of the things that came up was that even at that time, which is just a couple of days ago, he would not share with the Committee, or he would not turn over to the Committee, the cover page of the 9 referrals. He felt that it was very important, from the RTC's perspective, and from his perspective, that the referrals that remain a confidential matter that should not be shared with anyone. And he has been pretty clear about that all the way through his testimony, from the 1st time I asked him questions about calling Mr. Altman back in September. He feels very, very strongly that this is not information that should be shared. But yet, either Mr. Altman or Ms. Hanson, or a combination of the two, shared this information with the White House, through Mr. Nussbaum. I am just curious as to how you think. it should have been handled. I mean, I heard someone say the other day, you know I am not sure I know all these rules about ethics, but I sure know right from wrong, I would like to have your sense about what has happened, the sharing of these referrals with the White House back in September. Secretary BENTSEN. I think what you have, Senator, in this, you do not have as clear guidance as you should have, particularly if You are talking about nonpublic information, and that is what you are speaking of. 26 I know there are instances where the White House should know and a law enforcement agency, as we have in Treasury, or some of these other departments have, really ought to be able to communicate with the White House. But there is no clear line there. I can think of-I am not sure that you were here at that point, Senator, but I can think of situations where the White House should know. I think about the possibility of some foreign dignitary that gets involved in a dope Senator MACK. I was here when you made that comment. In fact, that is what triggered the question. Secretary BENTSEN. OK. Senator MACK. And let me again maybe just add a couple of more points to it. I do not have any disagreement with that. But I think that what is troubling me, is again, should the White House have knowledge that there may be something coming up that they are going to have to deal with? I mean, for example, would it have been OK for them to have learned that it appears that there will be some referrals that will go to Justice, but not the details of those referrals? I think, you know again Secretary BENTSEN. Yes, I think there are cases where they should have the details of those referrals. Senator MACK. Before or after it becomes public knowledge? Secretary BENTSEN. Before it becomes public knowledge. Senator MACK. Before? Secretary BENTSEN. Let me give you an example. Let's suppose that you have someone, some foreign dignitary that is involved in dope running, and that is not publicly known. Senator MACK. Mr. Secretary, I am really trying to get you to respond, though, to this, the area of these 9 criminal referrals, not Secretary BENTSEN. Oh. I do not know the details of those 9 criminal referrals. Senator MACK. No. The point is should the details of the 9 criminal referrals been made available to the White House before they were public knowledge? Secretary BENTSEN. I do not think that they have clear guidance on that. And I think that is part of the problem. Senator MACK. Well then give me your instincts. I mean, what we are talking about is just kind of basic Secretary BENTSEN. I do not want to deal in instincts. I think you try to understand the guidelines and respond to those. But the problem, there is not a clear, bright line, and that has to be done. And that is where I want your Counsel of this Committee, and I want that of the Attorney General and the Office of Government Ethics. Senator MACK, Let me move on then to another point, because I think it might lead into that. The Office of Government Ethics' report does not address all the conflicts between Mr. Altman's testimony and those of the White House and Treasury officials. And I believe, in a sense, it throws it back into your lap. 27 In part of the analysis, it says, on the basis of our review, we believe that "you might reasonably conclude that the conduct detailed in the report of the officials presently employed by the Department of the Treasury did not violate any standards of conduct, of ethical conduct for employees of the Executive Branch. However, many of the contacts detailed in the report are troubling."
August 3, 1994 - Part 5
(15:50:34) This matter had been much in the news at that time and the President said to me that he was concerned that it was not being fairly understood. I replied that even that kind of innocuous conversation could subsequently be misconstrued and that it would be' preferable if the President had no discussions of any sort with Mr. Ludwig about Whitewater. The President agreed and asked me to,: so inform Mr. Ludwig. I returned to my hotel room, and I called Mr. Ludwig, whom I had not previously met. He was not in his room so I left a message later that evening, I met Mr. Ludwig by chance, I took him aside, explained that I had learned of his call to Mr. Sloan. and that 87 had talked to the President, who had decided that the two of them should not discuss anything about Whitewater. And I believe that was the end of the matter. My only other involvement in these matters came about in response to Roger Altman's February 24, 1994 testimony before this Committee. On the following day, Friday the 25th, Cliff Sloan came to MY office and told me that although Mr. Altman had said there was only one meeting between White House and Treasury officials concerning Madison, Mr. Sloan was aware of two additional meetings and several phone conversations with Jean Hanson that had taken place in late September through early October, 1993, prior to the time I had joined the Counsel's Office. In addition, I had previously learned from Mr. Nussbaum, in a conversation that occurred approximately one week after the February 2nd meeting, that Mr. Altman had raised the issue of his recusal at that February 2nd meeting. The press accounts on February 25th, quoting Mr. Altman's testimony, made no reference to the recusal. Although I had no information about Mr. Altman's knowledge, I was concerned about these omissions in his testimony. On Monday, February 28, 1994, when Mr. Nussbaum returned from an out-of- town trip, I raised these concerns with him. After he and I discussed the matter, Mr. Nussbaum asked me to talk to John Podesta, Staff Secretary, who was already aware of these issues, having discussed them previously with Mr. Eggleston. Mr. Podesta subsequently met with several members of the White House staff, including myself, to decide what actions would be appropriate in this occasion. After these discussions, Mr. Podesta called Mr. Altman and relayed our concerns about his testimony. Mr. Chairman, that sums up my involvement in these events, I will be glad to amplify in response to your questions. Thank you. The CHAIRMAN, Thank you, Mr. Klein. Mr. Eggleston. W. NEIL EGGLESTON, ASSOCIATE COUNSEL TO THE PRESIDENT Mr. EGGLESTON. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, my name is Neil Eggleston. I'm an Associate Counsel to the President. I started working at the White House in September 1993, shortly before the events that are the subject of these hearings began. Mr. Chairman, I've spent a large portion of my professional career in public service. I am proud of that public service, and I am proud that I have now worked in all three branches of Government. In the late 1970's, I served as a law clerk to two Federal judges, including the Honorable Warren E. Burger, when he was Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. From 1981 through 1987, 1 was an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York. 1, left that job in 1987 to work for the House of Representatives as Deputy Chief Counsel of the House Select Committee investigating the Iran-Contra affair. As previous testimony before this Committee has now made clear, I was involved in some of the contacts between the Treasury Department and the White House in this matter. As to each of contacts, I was acting in my official capacity, assisting others III responding to press and congressional issues. 88 The first meeting that I recall attending with members of the Treasury Department occurred on October 14, 1993, As I recall, that meeting related to press inquiries that the Department of the Treasury had received about criminal referrals on the Madison matter. Those press inquiries were apparently prompted by detailed leaks from someone in the RTC to the news media, including the fact that the Clintons' names appeared in the referrals. I do not believe that I learned any information during that meeting that was not prompted by those press inquiries. And indeed, leaks from the RTC appeared a few weeks later in articles in The Washington Post and The New York Times. I have no reason whatsoever to believe that any White House official took any steps to influence the RTC based on the information that the White House received concerning the criminal referrals.
Watergate Hearings - Testimony of Gordon C. Strachan, July 23, 1973
U.S. Senator Herman E. Talmadge (D-GA): "As you are aware, there is a direct conflict in some of the testimony between you and [deputy campaign director Jeb Stuart] Mr. Magruder. Can you tell us why we ought to believe you in preference to Mr. Magruder?" Former White House aide Gordon C. Strachan: "Yes, sir. I believe you should assess a witness's testimony in light of his for telling the truth and in light of the individual's motives for telling the truth. Mr. Magruder has told various versions of the Watergate story, many of them believed, to the FBI, to three grand juries, to the original Watergate trial jury, to the original prosecutors, to the attorneys and other officials at the Committee to Re-elect the President. Apparently the story he told them was false all along, yet they believed him. As to an individual's motive to tell the truth, Mr. Magruder was faced with, in his mind, at least twelve counts of perjury...whatever other crimes he might be charged with. His desire to deliver an individual on the White House staff to the prosecutors was quite high. I believe he selected me because I had refused to corroborate testimony he asked me to corroborate." Senator Talmadge: "Did he ever lie to you while you were at the White House together?" Strachan: "Yes, sir, he did." Senator Talmadge: "In what respect?" Strachan: "He would frequently inform me that a matter had been decided by someone when it had not, in fact, been decided by that individual, and we had occasional arguments over that misinformation."
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(20:00:12) Mr. ALTMAN. Senator DAmato, I interpreted your question as referring to requests from the White House and I think that was a fair interpretation because of the preceding questions which -involved discussions about the White House and the President's involvement. I said that I requested the February 2 meeting and you asked your question. I just interpreted it to mean a request from the White House and you immediately followed up and said Senator DAMATO. Excuse me. Let's read the transcript. Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman, I am going to Senator DAMATO. "Senator D'Amato would you look at the transcript. It says, "was there any other meeting that may have been requested?' That's after you said you requested the February 2 meeting. I then said was there any other meeting. You said no. The CHAIRMAN. Let's do this, if I may. Senator KERRY. Let's have an answer, please. Senator DAMATO. Is that true? Senator DODD. Let's have an answer, cool the temperatures down a little bit. Senator BOXER. Lees take a break. Senator GRAMM. Let's try to get through it. The CHAIRMAN. Why don't you give a response and if there's a need for a follow-up, let's let him look at this over the recess as well, but respond Mr. Altman, to what's just been put to you. Mr. ALTMAN. I think---- Senator DODD. Are you looking now at the transcript? Mr. ALTMAN. I'm looking at the transcript. I thought that Senator D'Amato's question related to requests by the White House. Let me tell you what his follow-up was Senator DODD. Please let him answer. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator Senator GRAMM. He changes the question. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I know you may not agree, but that is what I thought. And you clarified your own question by saying, "you mean there was no other meeting that you were aware of that the White House requested?" That was your own clarification of your own question. I think there's a reasonable basis for me to have thought what your question was. Senator D'AMATO. And I would just appeal-and I would just simply say the record states quite clearly, I asked you who set up the meeting on the 2nd. You said Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Mr. Chairman, this is not Senator DAMATO. We're at a critical, crucial issue. It may be embarrassing to Mr. Altman but be has a happy facility Senator DODD, I don't think any of our colleagues are afraid of asking embarrassing questions. Senator D'AMATO. If I could The CHAIRMAN. Let's do this Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Mr. Chairman 467 Senator DAMATO. Fin,;. Let me say this. My colleagues have been very patient. We will return to this question. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Good. Senator DAMATO. I thank them for their patience, but I'd like the question answered eventually. Senator BOXER. Absolutely. The CHAIRMAN. The Committee now will take a 10-minute recess and when we resume, Senator Bryan will be recognized. The Committee stands in recess. (20:02:45) [Recess.] (20:02:47) Commentary hearing hosts DON BODE and NINA TOTENBERG from tv studio, they also talk to J. WILLIAM CORDINHA (?) Majority Counsel (20:09:03)(tape #10071 ends)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Larry Sturdivan (Conclusion)
Committee Chairman LOUIS STOKES recognizes Representative FLOYD J. FITHIAN to question the witness, Fithian asks Sturdivan to clear up a discrepancy between his description of the entrance wound in Governor JOHN CONNALLY and a description received in earlier testimony from others - Sturdivan explains where his description of the wound is coming from, a drawing done by one of the Parkland Hospital doctors of an ellipse, he then explains what the elliptical shape means as far as the bullet's path is concerned: it had an exaggerated yaw, or angle of spin, meaning it had to have hit something previous to reaching Connally.
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20.10.14-DUKE-ADELMAN nomination is expected to clear committee. Discussion of pressure for JOBS PROGRAM. 20.10.43-ROBERTS with Rep. TOM FOLEY in office, discussion of JOBS PROGRAM. Very important for DEMOCRATS to take initiative to force WHITE HOUSE to take action to actually provide jobs. The JOBS BILL is not "make-work" program. There is a need for PUBLIC WORKS to be done. Discussion of scope of different proposals. FOLEY says there's certainly NEED for $68 BILLION program, but in practical reality, may have to settle for less. FOLEY says he has to get a JOBS PROGRAM together that can pass to get something done. Need to keep the bill responsible and limited. FOLEY-there is a need to start soon so that JOBS come before the RECOVERY. FOLEY says DEMOCRATS will look bad if there is a recovery before the JOBS PROGRAM takes effect, but they are willing to take that risk now since there isn't any recovery in sight. 20.14.30-DUKE/ROBERTS-TIP O'NEILL enthusiastic about chances for compromise with REAGAN, discussion of WHITE HOUSE plan for limited, public works JOBS PROGRAM versus HOUSE plan for PUBLIC SERVICE jobs which would include more WOMEN and different demographic groups. WERTHEIMER-REAGAN has gotten the message that the public wants Government to take action to create JOBS and that Congress was going to do it anyway. 20.16.22-DUKE-race for DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION is underway, but Rep. MORRIS UDALL (D-AZ) bucked a trend to announce he isn't running. Sen. CRANSTON is only declared DEMOCRAT. WERTHEIMER-most observers say CRANSTON has no chance, but he's going to make the most of it anyway. 20.17.03-Shots of SENATE CAUCUS ROOM, CRANSTON with supporters, at podium announcing candidacy. Shot of "NEW HAMPSHIRE WELCOMES SENATOR CRANSTON" sign. CRANSTON at a podium, announcing to New Hampshire. CRANSTON acknowledges that he doesn't have the "name recognition" of MONDALE or JOHN GLENN, but makes light of their fame, associating MONDALE with JIMMY CARTER. WERTHEIMER v.o.-also concerns about CRANSTON'S AGE, would be older than REAGAN was in 1980. Clip of Campaign Film (?-definite propaganda slant) of CRANSTON in red, white, blue USA track suit running laps at a fast pace. Shot of CRANSTON on committee. C/S CRANSTON in office, says he's the most experienced candidate in legislation and has military and executive branch experience his opponents lack. Says that REAGAN just has charisma, the public wants experience. C/S CRANSTON in committee, arguing that REAGAN'S NUCLEAR ARMS POLICY is insane, argues for NUCLEAR FREEZE plan. 20.20.18-C/S Sen. MARK HATFIELD, shot of film showing disfigured survivors of HIROSHIMA bombing, part of forum co-sponsored by CRANSTON. C/S CRANSTON in office, says he is "the peace candidate". Shot of CRANSTON on committee, interrogating KEN ADELMAN, REAGAN'S nominee for ARMS CONTROL chief. CRANSTON says ADELMAN has no strong opinions on ARMS CONTROL, doesn't take the issue seriously. C/S CRANSTON in office, says he's distinct among candidates by his total commitment to ending the insanity of the ARMS RACE. Shot of vocal CRANSTON supporters at CALIFORNIA STATE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION. WERTHEIMER v.o.-his CALIFORNIA base is a major electoral bloc already in CRANSTON'S corner for the nomination. Shot of singer KENNY LOGGINS endorsing CRANSTON at the convention, starts in on a song. 20.22.35-Shots of worker in CRANSTON campaign offices, answering phone, taking a pledge, using computers. C/S Sen. HOWARD BAKER in office, says he's not sure if an active SENATOR has time or energy to run for PRESIDENCY. C/S CRANSTON in office, says he refuses to be "unemployed" to campaign. 20.23.51-DUKE-intro commentary. Commentary by OTIS PIKE on CRANSTON CANDIDACY. Notes that the SENATE is a perfect venue for GRANDSTANDING and CRANSTON'S position of leadership gives him a great chance to introduce legislation, discussion of the bills CRANSTON introduced to appeal to different constituencies. 20.26.19-DUKE-signs off Closing credits/transcript order information/WETA credit/sponsor credits/PBS ID 20.27.54--OUT
LAWMAKERS, June 16, 1983
02.23.02-DUKE in studio. DUKE-intro report on Sen. PETE DOMENICI (R-NM), chair of BUDGET COMMITTEE. Shot of DOMENICI campaigning in New Mexico retirement home lunchroom, very familiar with several residents. Shots of SANDIA MOUNTAINS and plains outside ALBUQUERQUE. DOMENICI discusses his upbringing speaking Spanish and Italian. Still shots of Sen. DOMENICI as young boy. WERTHEIMER v.o.-summary of DOMENICI'S start in politics in Albuquerque city council. 02.25.21-Shot of Harry KINNEY, Mayor of Albuquerque, talks about getting DOMENICI motivated to get into politics. Shot of DOMENICI campaigning, Mexican MARIACHI band plays in the hall. Shots of MEXICAN-AMERICANS and NATIVE AMERICANS at campaign event-"ethnic" dances, man plays deerskin drum, 02.26.28-Shot of New Mexico state DEMOCRATIC chairman-compliments REPUBLICAN DOMENICI on serving the diverse constituency of NEW MEXICO. Shots of NEW MEXICANS praising DOMENICI'S status in WASHINGTON as a source of New Mexico pride. Shot of DOMENICI and another SENATOR entering WHITE HOUSE doors past MARINE guard. Still photo of DOMENICI in WHITE HOUSE meeting with REAGAN and GEORGE BUSH. DOMENICI v.o.-discusses his role in working with WHITE HOUSE on the budget, often a constructive, private critic of REAGAN'S demands. 02.27.59-shot of BUDGET COMMITTEE session, closeup of DOMENICI speaking in committee, disagreeing with REAGAN'S requests. Shot of DOMENICI in office, discusses his position with constituents, optimistic and positive assessment. Shot of small prop plane on runway. DOMENICI welcomed by red carpet on exiting plane. 02.29.10--WERTHEIMER-part of DOMENICI'S success in DEMOCRATIC S.E. New Mexico due to his efforts to get FEDERAL FUNDING for IRRIGATION. Shots of DOMENICI with farmers in arid field, wearing John Deere cap for authenticity. Shots of federally funded IRRIGATION CANALS. Shot of TRACTOR tilling a dusty patch of land. Shot of new "field planer" device attached to TRACTOR, described as used to make irrigated fields perfectly flat to maximize water. Shot of DOMENICI sitting in TRACTOR. Shot of FARMERS getting in van to tour IRRIGATION sites. DOMENICI v.o. says he can work with DEMOCRAT VOTERS. 02.30.53-shot of picketers in CARLSBAD, NM, urging DOMENICI to support PROTECTIONIST policies for POTASH MINERS. Shot of DOMENICI meeting miners, handshakes. Shot of one miner, says DOMENICI will talk to people, but not always do anything for their concerns. Second miner says DOMENICI is "fair", but miners need a more liberal person to serve them. WERTHEIMER v.o.-DOMENICI aware that recession could cost him his seat, travels in New Mexico frequently to meet with constituents. Shot of Albuquerque POSTAL WORKERS at meeting to lobby DOMENICI on reforms of POSTAL PENSIONS. Shots of DOMENICI addressing POSTAL WORKERS, shaking hands after speaking. WERTHEIMER v.o.-DOMENICI'S reputation for being PARTISAN in WASHINGTON and taking care of business in New Mexico. 02.33.14-DOMENICI seated in living room, interviewed by WERTHEIMER. DOMENICI says he is genuinely concerned for NEW MEXICO, and can work even though REAGAN policies have hurt many in the state. Shots of DOMENICI meeting with MINERS, FARMERS, SENIOR CITIZENS. 02.34.02-DUKE in studio-Discussion with WERTHEIMER about quality of REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP in SENATE, speculation on DEMOCRATIC potentials for gaining SENATE majority. DUKE signs off. 02.34.53-Closing credits/transcript order information/WETA Credit/sponsor credits/PBS ID 02.36.17-OUT
THE CHALLENGERS '96 - "Roundtable Discussion on Sen. Phil Gramm"
Panel discussion with host Ken Bode, Alan Murray of the Wall Street Journal, Gloria Borger of U.S. News and World Report, and Carl Leubsdorf of the Dallas Morning News, on the Presidential candidacy of U.S. Senator Phil Gramm. Bode notes that Borger has covered Sen. Gramm since he was in the House as a Democrat. Borger admires Sen. Gramm for the manner in which he switched parties, by announcing the switch, resigning his seat, running again, and winning. Bode asks Leubsdorf about Gramm's ouster from the House committee assignment while still a Democrat; Leubsdorf says Gramm glossed over allegations he was leaking the Democrats' battle strategies to the Republicans. Bode turns to Murray on Gramm being at the forefront of cutting budgets and devolving authority to states and local governments, putting him at the head of the Reagan revolution. Murray agrees Gramm is of the mindset to cut taxes and budgets, reducing the size of the government, with the exception of Texas. Gramm has no issue spending within and for the state of Texas. Bode turns to Leubsdorf on how Gramm is polling in Texas; Leubsdorf says Gramm is polling even with U.S. Senator Bob Dole and only four points ahead of U.S. President Bill Clinton, which is within the margin of error. Borger notes he has a "likability" problem even with Republican voters, is not doing well in New Hampshire.
August 4, 1994 - Part 4
(12:55:44) Senator BOND. I was concerned because, going back to our files, we've come across a March 7 article in The Washington Post that I believe refers to an interview done by you on Sunday's CNN Late Edition, with Mr. Gibson. In any event, The Washington Post quotes you as saying-well, actually, the transcript said, "Again, I don't think there was anything improper at all. It was an informational meeting. The same information was provided to the White House, had already become public record and had already been provided to Members, both Democratic and Republican Members of the Senate Banking Committee." Do you recall that statement? Mr. MCLARTY. I recall the interview. I believe it was with Mr. Sesno, if I'm not mistaken, Senator Bond. I don't recall the article that you're referring to, and I believe it refers to the February 2nd meeting and not any follow-up letters to this Committee. Senator BOND. But I'm concerned that at that time you knew the information was incomplete and when asked about it, you followed the same line that Mr. Altman had followed in the February 24 hearing. That's the reason that I asked the question about when you had knowledge that, in his February 24 testimony before this Committee, he had not mentioned that he had discussed recusal on February 2. Mr. McLARTY. Senator Bond, if I may respond. Senator BOND. Sure. Please. Mr. McLARTY. And I appreciate your point. I think I just testified that I was not certain of the date that I learned this, and I believe the way that question came was about the February 2nd meeting. As the matter was brought to me, it was about his testimony being complete. I don't recall the level of detail, as I just testified a few moments ago, as I testified to you. Senator BOND. Mr. McLarty, when did you first learn about the criminal referrals perhaps mentioning the Clintons? Mr. McLARTY. That was asked earlier, Senator. Sometime in November, I believe. Senator BOND. So you were not advised during, at the time that Mr. Nussbaum received the faxes from Mr. Altman, March 23 and 24, you were not advised at that time? Mr. McLARTY. No, I was not. Senator BOND. Do you recall who told you about the criminal referrals? Mr. McLARTY. I believe I read about them in the paper during that period of time. Senator BOND. That was about October 31? Mr. McLARTY. Sometime thereabouts or shortly thereafter. Senator BOND. As Chief of Staff in the White House, you were not advised by Counsel who had had meetings with Ms. Hanson, September 29th and the October meetings, that this was going on? That wasn't brought to your attention? 332 Mr. McLARTY. No, it was not, Sir. Senator BOND. Is it distressing to you as Chief of Staff that the information was not brought to you? Mr. McLARTY. No, it's not, sir. Senator BOND. Can you give this Committee any assurance that nothing was done to get rid of any records that might have beer related to or have reflected upon the matter in the criminal refer ral, any of the matters dealing with Whitewater? Can you give this Committee that assurance? Mr. McLARTY. I can only give you the best of my knowledge. All of the records have been given first, I believe, to the Justice Department and then to the Special Counsel, as I understand it . That's the best of my knowledge. All of the information has been provided that has been requested. Senator BOND. Anyone else? I thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Kerry, do you want to be recognized?
Watergate Hearings - Testimony of John Caulfield. May 23, 1973
Master 10373 Part 1 Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, May 23, 1973 Testimony of John Caulfield. Caucus Room, Russell Senate Office Building, Washington DC [a brief clip of John CAULFIELD'S testimony from that day - saying that the involvement of White House Counsel John DEAN led him to believe that NIXON was involved] Mr. John CAULFIELD. I have this conversation with John Dean, whose the Council to the President. I've been there three years, I know what the relations are and how they exist, I make certain judgments based upon those relationships. In my mind I felt that the President probably did know about it. Now, I'm going out the door to become more specific, and it crossed my mind that this conceivably was for the president, I believed it, I had to think about that. And based upon all that background, I believed I was doing something for the President of the United States, and I did it sir.
Congressional Hearing - Alexander Haig
U.S. Secretary of State Alexander Haig continues his opening remarks during a Congressional hearing on East and West relations before the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Secretary Haig discusses the historical events happening in Poland, what they mean for east-west relations, and what the U.S. can do to influence the situation. Haig says the Polish crisis is far from over, the Polish communists’ failure to meet the needs of the Polish people reflects a failure of Soviet communism. Haig says the martial law regime in Poland will not find success, and the Polish economy will only be revived with the cooperation of the Polish worker. Haig says resistance will continue with martial law in Poland, and the demonstrations in Poland are testimony that the Polish people have not been silenced. Haig says the West can and must act to influence the situation; action now can help Warsaw and Moscow reconsider their actions in Poland.
Reagan - Scowcroft Commission Report
U.S. President Ronald Reagan continues speech on Scowcroft Commission Report, discusses recommendations of Bipartisan Commission on Strategic Forces. Reagan urges Congress to join him in supporting bipartisan program for arms control agreements to support stability of our ICBM force. Reagan has asked Committee Chairman Brent Scowcroft to keep him closely advised as issue moves toward resolution, particularly in terms of arms control. Reagan says modernization proposals of past Presidential administrations have been embroiled in political controversy. Reagan says the commission, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and himself have taken fresh looks at previous positions, says support from the American people and Congress will unite us in a common search for ways to strengthen our national security, reduce the risk of war, and reduce the level of nuclear weapons. Reagan says there is no time to delay. Reagan closes speech, thanks Commission; audience stands, applauds. Reagan exits East Room of White House. Predominately adult Caucasian male audience members talk.
U.S. Congressmen Speak Out Against NCPAC
U.S. Congressmen speak out against the NCPAC (National Conservative Political Action Committee). U.S House Representatives Paul Simon (D-IL), Thomas Downey (D-NY), and Raymond Kogovsek (D-CO) all standing together in meeting room; Rep. Downey speaks on the constitutional right for even extreme groups to distort and manipulate the truth, but they must be met, head on, with facts; particularly when it comes to the tax bill. It is his belief that the Democratic tax bill benefits middle-income workers, providing them savings over the a tax bill being promoted by NCPAC that would benefit wealthier people. Rep. Downey also states that NCPAC has actually made it easier for him to run for re-election; it has become a rally point for his supporters and constituents on Long Island. He doesn't like the thought of having any enemies, but if he could pick one to go against, NCPAC would be high on the list.
Senator Gary Hart Addresses DNC
U.S. House Representative Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) thanks U.S. Senator Gary Hart (D-CO) for addressing the Democratic National Committee; adult Caucasian males seated, standing around Rep. Ferraro. She and other adult, predominantly Caucasian, males and females stand and applaud; Sen. Hart hurries over to shake her hand, adult Caucasian male photographers taking pictures. Rep. Ferraro speaking to Reverend Jesse Jackson; photos being taken, District of Columbia Mayor Marion Barry stands next to Jackson. Mayor Barry sits down next to Rep. Ferraro. Rev. Jackson walks with adult African American and Caucasian males in FG, occasionally stopping to shake hands as Rep. Ferraro announces she will allow Rev. Jackson the chance to make his way to the speaker's table, then allow for photographs to be taken, before the next session begins. Rev. Jackson sits down at the table, smiles and gives a "thumbs up"; adult Caucasian and African American males and females in BG.
Interview with Rep. Tip O'Neill
Cokie Roberts (o/s) suggests that legislators don't remember the Hoover years, which U.S. Speaker of the House, Rep. Tip O’Neill (D-MA) acknowledges. O'Neill goes on to lament the lack of discipline, at least within his party. If a caucus voted overwhelmingly to support an issue, every Democrat would vote for it. Today, O'Neill estimates more than sixty percent of Congress has no prior legislative experience on a local or state level, so there is no party discipline. And there are no party organizations on the Democratic side. However, today's legislators are more able, talented, highly educated, and well-informed in comparison to when he first entered office, relied on personal staff, those in the Library of Congress for help and information, and followed the leadership of the party committee. Roberts asks if the change is for the better or worse; O'Neill sees it for the better, the structure is less dictatorial.
Vietnam Veterans Discuss Agent Orange
U.S. House Representative Gillespie V. "Sonny" Montgomery (D-MS) meeting with several adult Caucasian male Vietnam War veterans in his office. Male veteran expresses the group's satisfaction that at least under Rep. Montgomery's leadership on the Veterans Affairs Committee, the issue of Agent Orange is being addressed. "We're Dying To Get The Facts on Agent Orange - Brotherhood of Vietnam Veterans, Inc." decal on suitcase; Rep. Montgomery speaking to the veterans. "America is #1 Thanks To Our Veterans" sticker in corner of wall mirror; Rep. Montgomery talking about the Veterans Jobs Bill. Male veteran asks Rep. Montgomery about one of his colleagues opposition vote; Rep. Montgomery thinks that once the Agent Orange studies are complete, his colleagues will come down on the right side of the vote. Male veteran thanks Montgomery for saving lives by taking the study on the affects of Agent Orange from the Veterans Administration and giving it to the Centers for Disease Control.
Summer of Judgment Pt 2 of 2
MS Garner Cline: "Wherefore, Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct warrants impeachment & trial & removal from office." TLSs House Judiciary (Rodino Committee). MS Rep. CHARLES WIGGINS (R-CA) debating on Nixon's behalf: "The heart of this matter is that the Presdent made it his policy to obstruct justice & to interfere w/ investigations. Would you please explain when & in what respect & how did the President declare that policy?" MS Rep. CHARLES SANDMAN (R-NJ) debating: "Do you or do you not believe that the President is entitled to know in the articles of impeachment specifically on what day he did that thing which you say he should be tried to be removed form office?" MS Rep. PAUL SARBANES (D-MD) replying "I do not believe that the article of impeachment is going to contain all of the specific facts which go to support the article. If it were to do that it would be 18 volumes." Mr. Sandman continues attack for specificity. TLS Judiciary in recess.
1983 - CONGRESS: WE THE PEOPLE - Representation
U.S. House Representative Lyle Williams (R-OH) states that the cost of elections seems to be making it more of a rich man's club. VS of adult Caucasian male (and one female) assembly line workers in a Jeep plant. Rep. Williams says that his job as a barber is an example of how a Congressman should serve the whole public. VS of a Congressional Committee meeting. Political scientist, Roger Davidson, states that lawyers predominate because lawyers work with so many political entities on the lower levels, and have flexible schedules to campaign. Rep. John Spratt (D-SC) says the legal background is good training for Congress because its main business is to make laws. Rep. Bob Edgar (D-PA) says that lawyers tend to split hairs and don't consider the impact of the law. U.S. Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) says there is some skill in making government work, so a "professional" background is important.