August 9, 1995 - Part 6
August 9, 1995 - Part 6
(15:30:00)(tape #10140 begins) Senator D'AMATO. Now, let's start the clock over again. You have 10 minutes, and I recognize Senator Sarbanes. Senator SARBANES. Let me just make this observation. I was listening very carefully, and that's exactly what Mr. Nussbaum was trying to do. Mr. Chertoff quoted his deposition to him. He acceded to the quotes that were made to him from his deposition and then said he wanted to add something from another page in a fuller explanation. In fact, the quotes that Mr. Chertoff put to him stopped and the next question was: (15:30:37)(tape #10139 ends) "When thereafter?" And the answer was: "Within a matter of days."' That was asked. The next question was: "Before the documents went to Williams & Connolly?" And the answer was: "I don't know, I don't remember at this point," which for the purpose of this line of questioning I think was a relevant answer. Now, we stopped short of that. No one picked up on that. Mr. Nussbaum then said, in fuller explanation, he wanted to go to page 412, and I am going to give him a chance to do that in just a second. Senator SIMON. If I could ask if you would yield for 20 seconds? Senator SARBANES. I yield to the Senator. Senator SIMON. I would point out one other thing. When Mr. Chertoff says, "OK, we will put your full deposition in the record," that doesn't take care of people who are watching this on television. I think, in fairness to witnesses, they ought to have a chance to give a balanced presentation here. The CHAIRMAN. I will, at the appropriate time, have all 6 pages read into the record and put on the monitor, And I am serving notice that we are going well beyond 4:00 p.m. Senator SARBANES. I think we should go on beyond 4:00 p.m. The CHAIRMAN. We will go tomorrow and Friday. Senator SARBANES. Fine. We should do a proper and thorough inquiry. The CHAIRMAN. That is correct. Senator SARBANES. I agree with that, Mr. Chairman, The CHAIRMAN. Well, we are going to run the clock the way you want it. Senator SARBANES. All right. The other point I want to make before I yield is on the Adams depositions talked about earlier. This is the question to Mr. Adams on the disposal of the documents. This is Mr. Chertoff. Question: I understand that. I am not suggesting that he did otherwise. Now I am focusing at the end of the review of the materials in Mr, Foster's office by Mr. Nussbaum. He indicated that he intended to disperse the materials in the category of personal to Mr. Foster and his family to Mr. Foster's family representatives, and those pertaining to personal matters of the President and Mrs. Clinton? Answer, To their personal attorney. Question: To their personal attorney. And the other materials to other individuals in the White House Counsel's Office who would then be reassigning the matter? Answer. That's correct. Now, in his testimony here, Mr. Adams was also asked: Question it was your understanding, was it not, that following the review of the files that the personal files relating to Mr. and Mrs. Clinton would be sent by Mr, Nussbaum to the personal attorneys for Mr. and Mrs. Clinton? Mr. ADAMS. That's correct. Question: And neither Mr. Margolis nor you voiced any objection that. Isn't that so? Mr. ADAMS. That's correct. 1278 In light of some of the questioning that has transpired here, I think it's important to get that on the record. Mr. Nussbaum, if you would now address the question of the additional material in your deposition which you wanted to present to the Committee. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Yes this starts on page 411 and it runs onto412. This is about the returned file. Question: [by Mr. Chertoff] Who brought the file back? Answer: That I don't remember. Either Ms. Williams or Mr. Neuwirth. Even though they're quite distinct, one of them brought the file back. Question: Where did they bring it back from? Answer: I don't know, because I wasn't there when the file was brought back and I am not sure it was brought back from the residence or frrom Ms. Williams' office wher this file was. It was a residence file, and we made a determination that it was not a personal file that we should send to the Clintons' personal lawyers. That's all that happened here. We came across a residence file which was re turned to Mr. Foster's office for Mr. Neuwirth to work on in the future, just like Mr. Foster worked on residence matters with Ms. Williams and Mr. Neuwirth. Question: It was originally a Foster file. Right? Answer: No. It is a White House residence file which Mr. Foster worked on Question: Which was in his office? Answer: I'm not positive it was in his office. It was either in his office or Ms, Williams' office, but it was a matter he worked on, Question: But it originated in Mr. Foster's office? Answer: I'm not a hundred percent positive of that. It may have originated in Mr. Foster's office and gone out or was returned, or it may have been in Ms. Williams) office and was put into Mr. Foster's office. But it was a residence file. There was a discussion as to whether this was a personal rile that should go to the Clintons and their new personal attorneys and was determined that it was not a personal file, it was a file that should stay in the White House Counsel's Office so we should continue to work on that matter. I yield the balance of my time to Senator Dodd.