Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974 (2/2)
Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 27, 1974 (2/2)
[01.03.46] [very tail end of morning session, Chairman's gavel, cut to LEHRER in studio] [01.04.02] [PBS network ID] [promos for PBS programming] [01.07.11--title screen "Impeachment Debate"] LEHRER announces that the committee will move on to another paragraph of the ARTICLE [01.07.25] [cut Chairman RODINO, GAVEL] The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order and I recognize the gentleman from Alabama, Mr. Flowers. Mr. FLOWERS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I have an amendment at the clerk's desk. The CHAIRMAN. The clerk will read the amendment The CLERK [reading] Amendment by Mr. Flowers. 'Strike subparagraph 3 of the Sarbanes substitute. 'Mr. FLOWERS. Mr. Chairman, before proceeding on this, I would like to ask unanimous consent that debate on this amendment be limited to 20 minutes with the Chair allocating 10 minutes to the proponents of the subparagraph and 10 minutes to those who oppose it. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, so ordered. And as the Chair Understands, the gentleman's proposition means that those who would seek to be recognized to speak in opposition to the amendment, whether they come from the minority Side or the majority side, would be recognized as an opponent or proponent, as the case might be. Mr. FLOWERS. That is my intention, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Well, the Chair will, without objection, proceed in that fashion . The gentleman is recognized. Mr. FLOWERS. Mr. Chairman, thank you for this and thank the com- Committee for this so that we might expeditiously 'get along with the, consideration. I have talked with the gentleman from Virginia, Mr. Butler, about this particular subparagraph, and I would yield to him at this time, I believe he has some material to explain about it. Mr. BUTLER. I thank the gentleman for yielding. Mr. Chairman, specifically -we. are concerned at the moment with subparagraph 3. You will recall that the article I is directed to a course of conduct or plan by the President designed to obstruct justice and that there is in addition' to that a following paragraph which says the means used to implement this plam include one or more Of the following, And this deals with paragraph 3 of the following which concerns itself -with approving, condoning acquiescing in and counseling of witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted' judicial and congressional proceedings. And I would address myself it this moment to Some of the specifies supporting the above paragraph of the article. I'm assisted in this regard by the staff which have helped us in preparation of this memorandum which was mentioned this morning early by the gentleman from Wisconsin. [01.10.30]