Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 13, 1973 (1/2)
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 13, 1973 (1/2)
[00.17.14] Senator GURNEY. Do you know of your own knowledge what cash disbursements were made by Sloan or anybody else? Mr. STANS. I did not have any knowledge of cash disbursements by Mr. Sloan at the time other than the fact, as I testified yesterday, that Magruder had authority to direct Mr. Sloan to make payments. I did not know anything about, the amounts of the individual payments made by Mr. Sloan. I did know, of course, about the $50,000 that he gave to Alexander Lankler as I testified yesterday, I did not know at the time about any payments to Herbert Porter or to the White House beyond the $350,000 to which we have testified. I did not know about any payments which he made to Herbert Kalmbach or any of the other payments that were made by Mr. Sloan before or after April 7 except, that I believe I had some knowledge about the $15,000 that he gave, to Robert Athey at the request of Clement Stone to give to some law enforcement group in Illinois. Senator GURNEY. Back for a moment, to the $75,000 to Mr. Kalmbach. At that time did he tell you who asked him to get the money? Mr. STANS. No, he did not. He would not tell me. [00.18.57] Senator GURNEY. Did you ask him? Mr. STANS. I asked him why he wanted the money and he said it was on high authority for a White House project, not related to the election and I would have to trust him, that he had checked it, out. Senator GURNEY. Did you check with anybody else like Haldeman Ehrlichman, or anybody else whether you should pay the $75,000 to Kalmbach? Mr. STANS. No, I didn't. Senator GURNEY. At one point in your testimony yesterday you made passing reference to the fact, that you had received moneys from time to time from Mr. LaRue, you did not identify in what amounts or for what. Could you do that now? Mr. STANS. Yes. I received $30,000 from Mr. LaRue, not received in hand, but at my direction 'Mr. LaRue refunded the $30,000 that had come, from the Philippine contributor On another occasion late in the year Senator GURNEY. What did you do with this $30,000? Mr. STANS. At, the time Mr. LaRue made the repayment I didn't handle the money at all. He made it, direct Later in the year Senator GURNEY. Direct to whom? Mr. STANS. Mr. LaRue made the payment to Anna Chennault, to transmit, to Lagdameo who had proffered the contribution to us in the first place. Senator GURNEY. I see. Mr. STANS. Late in the year Mr. LaRue gave me $10,000 to give to Max Fisher which we had owed him for a long time for his traveling expenses in the course of the campaign. On another occasion, Mr. LaRue used $10,000 of the money we had given him to refund to a contributor whom I mentioned yesterday by the name of Saunders. So Mr. LaRue had accounted for three items, $30,000 plus $10,000 plus $10,000 or $50,000 against the $81,000 we had given to him. Subsequently, as I testified, I gave him $17,000 to begin to rebuild his fund, That is all I was as able to give him. So he then had an accountability for A balance of $48,000. Late in May Mr. LaRue gave us the $48,000 and balanced out his account. So far as I know of at this time of any transactions between our committee and Mr. LaRue, his account is balanced Senator GURNEY. Did you confer at any time with John Dean on the $25,000 Andreas contribution, how to handle it, The legality of it? Mr. STANS. No. I do not recall that I conferred with John Dean, about that item specifically. I believe that I conferred with John Dean and with other Counsel OD the principle of law of whether that contribution had to be reported as having been received after April 7 or whether it could be treated as a contribution before April 7, but only in terms of the principle of law.