Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 14, 1973
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 14, 1973
[00.02.00--in to Jeb MAGRUDER testifying about links between the CRP and the White House] Mr. MAGRUDER......Mr. Mitchell agreeing. In fact, I think that is one reason Mr. Mitchell agreed to run the, campaign because he, knew Mr. Haldeman would be his chief day-to-day contact at the White House, I disagree with that statement. That has been bandied about, I know. I do not agree with that. Senator INOUYE. Is there a possibility that one group of people, are trying to make another group the scapegoats for this? Mr. MAGRUDER. I cannot--i do not think so. I do not see any evidence of that specific type of activity. Obviously, everyone now is basically on his own and consequently, it is difficult to say anything is Of coordinated, concerted effort, at this time. I would think most individuals are operating independently of each other at this time- Senator INOUYE. Several people have been involved in the Watergate and its aftermath, and in most cases, those, involved or identified have Come forth and spoken, either voluntarily or involuntarily. But one, man stands out. He has remained silent. No one seems to be able to move him. Mr. Liddy. Why is he keeping silent, do you know? Mr. MAGRUDER. I have no idea. He is under appeal. I assume he feels he has a better opportunity under appeal than he does by speaking Out now. Senator INOUYE. In your testimony, you discussed Executive, clemency taking care. of the family, paying expenses. Was Mr. Liddy promised anything? Mr. MAGRUDER. My assumption is that he was promised what all the others -were. Senator INOUYE. What were they promised, sir? Mr. MAGRUDER. I do not, know. I only know what I talked about relating to myself Senator INOUYE. What were you promised. sir?, Mr. MAGRUDER. Well, as I indicated before, I talked about, salary, taking care of the family. legal cost. potential Executive clemency, assistance in getting a job, and so on--that type of thing. [00.04.05] Senator INOUYE. We have, received testimony that Mr. Strachan was a very important conduit. that. he -was the. liaison between the committee and the White House., that on the, other end was Mr. Haldeman. Mr. MAGRUDER. Yes, sir. Senator INOUYE. Did you receive any indication that Mr. Strachan did in fact convey those memos and messages that you have been sending to him through Mr. Strachan? Mr. MAGRUDER. Well. Mr. Strachan had a method of working with Mr. Haldeman I am unaware of. because I have seen some of the, documents and that was. he would do a summary sheet capsulizing activities of the campaign, I do not know how often he did it but it was a straightforward memo that condensed much of the information that we would give Mr. Strachan. That was his typical method of dealing with 'Mr. Haldeman I think. Of course, he could give you more information directly. and I gather he usually sent back material when he, thought it was appropriate Senator INOUYE. Did you get any feedback from Mr. Haldeman indicating that he had in fact received memos? Mr. MAGRUDER. No, sir. [00.05.12] Senator INOUYE. You spoke of a conversation with Mr., Charles Colson in February or March 1972 in which -Mr. Colson urged you to approve the Liddy plan, Mr. MAGRUDER. Yes, sir. Senator INOUYE. HOW many Liddy plans were in existence at that time? Mr. MAGRUDER. Well, to my knowledge, there was only the one plan that continually was revised downward. Senator INOUYE. So there was no question as to which plan Mr. Liddy was talking about? Mr. MAGRUDER. In that context. I would assume that that is correct. Senator INOUYE. There was no other Liddy--- Mr. MAGRUDER. I knew of no other Liddy plan, no, sir. He was, let me make it clear, doing other minor projects in the intelligence-gathering field but they were, basically of a minor nature. Senator INOUYE. But this was the Liddy plan?, Mr. MAGRUDER. Yes, sir. Senator INOUYE. We have received testimony which indicated that you made early morning calls to Key Biscayne right after receipt of the news of the break-in, in fact, a witness testified that you made a call at 4 in the morning. Mr. MAGRUDER. That is incorrect, sir. The only discussion I had with Key Biscayne. was on Sunday with Mr. Haldeman. I talked to the White House, in Washington that day on Saturday. Four in the morning.... Senator INOUYE. Sunday. Mr. MAGRUDER. Sunday, -well, my wife is here and I think she could testify we were, both in bed at that time. We--now, Sunday morning we were, at a fund-- well, a celebrity dinner and it was late when we, got back, late but I do not recall talking to Key Biscayne at that at time in the, morning. Senator INOUYE. You have testified that Mr. Moore and Mr. Liddy met with Mr. Kleindienst at the Burning Tree Country Club. Mr. MAGRUDER. I was told that, sir, yes. Senator INOUYE. . By whom, sir?