Lawmakers - May 27, 1982 - Budget Debate
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Cokie Roberts stands in front of Capitol gives intro to House in uproar over budget. In studio Linda Wertheimer report on Farm Problem. Paul Duke on plan to mint commemorative Olympics coins is controversial.
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Paul Duke and Linda Wertheimer intro report on budget debate. Notes that many of the same figures are prominent again this year, with Southern Democrats and Moderate Republicans holding the balance of power.
Cokie Roberts discussion of divisions in the Republican Party in House, resulting in three different proposed budgets.
Meeting of House Rules Committee.
Representative Richard Bolling (D - Missouri) in debate in House. But I want to make it very clear that were going to try to see to it that nobody tricks anyone. That there aren t any cute plays by anybody. Voiceover discussion of the rules of debate. Congressmen in debate.
Representative John Rousselot (R - California) in well of House. This is it. We have had a tremendous amount of discussion. Laughter from members of House.
Unidentified Representative. Because in my opinion, trying to get this Government and this Congress to quit spending money is like trying to put hogs on a diet.
Robert Dornan (R - California) arguing for cutting domestic spending. This is the one where we get to answer that challenge from the American people of only three words to this House Balance the budget. There was a love song in the 30s called Three Little Words , obviously I Love You . They re not telling us they love us. They re saying 3 simple words - Balance - The - Budget. And if we love them, we will Balance - The - Budget.
Representative Pat Williams (D - Montana), And the Rousselot amendment simply spreads the quicksands of Reaganomics. The American people have had it with the experimental tax cuts and polls show it and Rousselot continues it. The American people have had it with economic adventurism and polls show it and Rousselot continues it. The American people do not want to balance the budget on the backs of moderate income Americans. The polls show it; Rousselot continues it. Rousselot s budget is Robin Hood economics and the American people overwhelmingly don t want it.
Shots of general debate in the House. Representative Phil Gramm (D - Texas). Representative James Martin (R - North Carolina) if I heard the gentleman in his description earlier of the Jones amendment - is he saying in this amendment is to tax and tax and spend and spend? Representative Phil Gramm (D - Texas). I only heard tax and spend . I didn t hear tax tax, spend spend . Representative James Martin (R - North Carolina) Is this cut and cut and balance and balance amendment or is this tax and tax and spend and spend ? Representative Phil Gramm (D - Texas). I only heard one tax and one spend, but I d like to reiterate my point
Shots of general debate in the House. Representative David Obey (D - Wisconsin) Could you tell us what your deficits are in each of the 3 years? Representative James Martin (R - North Carolina). The Jones proposal Representative David Obey (D - Wisconsin) No, what s your deficit? Representative James Martin (R - North Carolina). My deficit, I don t have a deficit. I m proposing an amendment to the Jones substitute. Representative David Obey (D - Wisconsin) What is, what would the deficit be if your amendment is adopted? Representative James Martin (R - North Carolina). For 1983, the amended deficit would be $115.6 billion. Representative David Obey (D - Wisconsin), Which would make it the largest deficit in 83 of any of the alternatives before us. Is that not correct? Representative James Martin (R - North Carolina). That s absolutely correct. And that s not my fault. Representative David Obey (D - Wisconsin) And the gentleman is recognizing Well who s fault is it, Howdy Doody? It s your amendment.
Representative Bill Dannemeyer (R - California) in office. Well I can tell you I do not intend to serve in this institution on the premise of continuing the hemorrhaging that is going on in this country. By hemorrhaging I mean excessive federal spending. This place is out of control. And I do not intend to be a part of that.
Representative George Miller (D - California) What have we done? What is it we tell your constituents we ve done for them? We may have solved some political problems here in Washington, but I think as others have said on the Floor, this is going to be a very difficult budget to paint a nice face on.
Representative John LeBoutillier (R - New York) But I know the White House is getting worried about it because they just asked me what I was going to do 5 minutes before this show. Interviewer off camera What did you tell him? Representative John LeBoutillier (R - New York) I told him what I told you, that I m not sure on final passage how I ll vote. A lot of us may vote against the whole budget to make them go back and get a better budget.
Cokie Roberts closes segment saying it's possible the House could pass no budget at all, but with constituent pressure to pass a budget, it's likely that the moderate proposal will be passed.