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[=00.12.25-ERVIN questions DEAN about the hoops DEAN has to jump through to access his WHITE HOUSE files.] Senator ERVIN. Who originally denied you the right to copy them? Mr. DEAN. Well, when I was-my resignation was requested on the 30th, I recalled a, call from my secretary who said "What do I do?" They are in here putting bands around all your safes and all your material." And I said, "Just, let them band it all." And subsequently they transferred it all down to the basement of the Executive Office Building. Senator ERVIN. Did you talk to any individuals up there about having the right of access to them and the -right to have your files copied by Xerox or otherwise? Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir. I had my counsel send a letter, and I sat down and talked with Mr. Buzhardt and Mr. Buzhardt just said, "I am sorry, I cannot do anything for you about it." Senator ERVIN. Is he, not the White House counsel now? Mr. DEAN. He is a special counsel on the Watergate. [00.13.20] Senator ERVIN. Special counsel on Watergate and Mr. Buzhardt refused to allow you, or at least, he declined your request? Mr. DEAN. To permit me to copy; yes, sir. In fact, they were permitting me earlier to make some copies. My chronofiles which I would like to have just for future use., and my secretary was stopped from making any copies. Senator ERVIN. Unless there is some objection from some member of the Committee, I will direct the, staff of the committee to communicate with the White House and ask the White House to give Mr. Dean access to his files and also the, privilege of copying them by Xerox or other means. [00.14.06-Locking up DEAN'S files from him appears to be a last-ditch WHITE HOUSE effort to maintain the COVERUP] Mr. DEAN. I think. that a number of the questions that Senator Montoya asked about, executive privilege could also be answered if I had access to some of my files on executive privilege. I might add also that my office files were not, only contained in my own personal files, but they are contained in other members Of my staff who I do -not believe their files have been bound, and I would hope to have the opportunity to Check things that I knew they were working on for me that, relate to many of these items. [00.14.37] Senator ERVIN. And without objection on the part of the committee, I would request your counsel to supply the committee a copy of the letter to the President, asking for access to these files. Mr. SHAFFER. We will do that, Mr. Chairman. Senator ERVIN. Thank you very much. Senator INOUYE. Mr. Dean, You have just indicated that one of Our colleagues, the senior Senator from Massachusetts, was placed under surveillance. Was this electronic? Mr. DEAN. Not to my knowledge. It was initially--- Senator INOUYE. Any break-ins, burglaries? Mr. DEAN. Not to my knowledge. Senator INOUYE. Were members of his staff also subjected to this? [00.15.19-DEAN talks about getting dirt on Ted KENNEDY] Mr. DEAN. I do not know. I think there was some effort to make contact or do some examination of some of the. women who were also present during the Chappaquiddick incident, and there may have been some investigations made of them also. I do not have all the, details On this, and I am afraid that others, Mr. Caulfield and Mr. Ulasewicz, can tell you most about that. I do not, know, if Mr. Hunt is going to appear, but apparently he did an investigation for Mr. Colson of Mr. Kennedy, Senator Kennedy, also. [00.15.58-INOUYE asks DEAN about HALDEMAN and EHRLICHMAN devising strategy to deal with the ERVIN COMMITTEE] Senator INOUYE. On February 10 and 11, Important meetings were held in La Costa? Mr. DEAN. February 10 and 11, correct. Senator INOUYE. February 10 and 11, which have extra significance to this committee because from your testimony, I recall that On top of the agenda was the, discussion of the makeup of this panel. Mr. DEAN. That is correct. I believe the Senator recalls my comment on that. [00.16.24] Senator INOUYE. Did the meetings go beyond just the discussion of the background of panel members; did it go into how to influence how to intimidate, threaten? Mr. DEAN. Not at that point, sir, and I do not recall that. It -was more just an assessment of who, I think the White House was looking for friends on the committee then, you know, so they might, find out what the committee was going to do, was the initial concern. [00.16.57] Senator INOUYE. I refer to an article which appeared in the Charlotte Observer, dated May 17, 1973, and it reads as follows: "High officials in the North Carolina Republican Party confirmed Wednesday that H. R. (Bob) Haldeman, at the time President Nixon's chief of staff, made two attempts to get local parry officials to 'dig up something to discredit Ervin and blast him with it.' According to the sources, Haldeman placed two phone calls to former White House aide Harry Dent and asked Dent to relay The suggestion to State Republican Chairman Frank Rouse." Who is Harry Dent? [00.17.46]
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Billy Walker's Country Carnival No. 41

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Billy Walker "Charlie's Shoes" George Morgan "Like a Bird" Marion Worth "Wonderin' What to Do" Mac Wiseman "Love Letters in the Sand" Billy Walker and the Tennesse Walkers "Smokey Places" George Morgan "Your Love" Billy Walker/Marion Worth "Where Could I Go" Billy Walker/George Morgan "You're A Real Good Friend"
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Billy Walker's Country Carnival No. 42

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(Group) "Del Rio" Dallas Frazier "Sundown of My Mind" Jamey Ryan "I'll Go On Alone" Hank Locklin "Where the Blue of the Night...Someone Waits For Me" Billy Walker "Ribbon of Darkness" Hank Locklin "Country Hall of Fame" Billy Walker "How Great Thou Art" (Gospel) Billy Walker/Dallas Frazier "Everybody Ought To Sing A Song" (Duet)
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Billy Walker's Country Carnival No. 43

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Billy Walker "Just One Time" Willis Brothers "Ramblin' Man" Billie Jo Spears "Mr. Walker It's All Over" Chase Webster "Moody River" Billy Walker "I Treat Her Like a Baby" Willis Brothers "Number 2 Diesel And Alcohol Don't Mix" Billy Walker "Rock of Ages" (gospel) Billy Walker/Billie Jo Spears "I Got You and You Got Me" (Duet)
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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.17.46-DEAN discusses his knowledge of attempts by HALDEMAN to get operatives to find compromising information for leverage against Sen. ERVIN.] Mr. DEAN. Mr. Dent is a former special counsel to the President. His Principal area of activity was in the political area with regard to Southern States. I believe he is from the chairman's State. He has departed from the White, Rouge, staff and is in the private practice of law. He was on the White House staff for a number of years. I believe, he was in the, 1969 campaign, and he operates his law practice in both North Carolina and Washington, D.C. [00.18.22] Senator INOUYE. Was this type. of activity part of the job description? Mr. DEAN. Part of his job description? I believe the activity that is referred to occurred after Mr. Dent had departed from the White House staff. Senator INOUYE. Are, you aware if this activity did, in fact, occur? Mr. DEAN. No, sir. I have no firsthand knowledge, of that, the, only recollection I have of any effort, to get any information on the, chairman came to me when I had. after returning from Florida--from the La Costa meetings I went, as I recall, on the 12th to Florida and spent a Week down there. [00.19.03-the WATERGATE was taken away from the general Press group at the White House] When I returned back, I wanted to reconfirm With Baroody, the attack group which is a group of media-oriented people who had formerly operated under Mr. Colson would no longer--would stay out of the Watergate area, that they would not have this on their morning agenda, and it was also In connection with this meeting that, the President was asking that a speech be prepared to counteroffensive the general thrust of these hearings by laying out the number of demonstrations he had been subject to and the fact these, had been paid for by Democrats and the like. [00.19.44] I can recall Mr. Baroody and I also discussing other areas of counteroffensive and the like. It was that time that he told me, either that night or the next night that he -was meeting with some people from North Carolina and they thought they may have some interesting information on the Senator. Senator INOUYE. Were any other members of this committee subjected to special treatment? One member has suggested that he has been subjected to special treatment. Were other members subjected to special treatment? Mr. DEAN. Not to my knowledge. I -was not involved in that particular activity; no sir. Senator INOUYE. Did you ever discuss special treatment? Mr. DEAN. It very well could have come up at La Costa as to---- Senator INOUYE. I am testing your power of recollection. Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir. Senator INOUYE. It happened just recently; what can you recall, sir? Mr. DEAN. With regard to other members of the committee? [00.20.51-Sen. INOUYE tries to dig deeper into the strategy hatched to deal with the ERVIN committee, probing for evidence of attempts to influence, impede, or tamper] Senator INOUYE. Yes, sir; because I can't imagine meeting for 12 hours and just deciding that Senator so and so is an attorney, he practiced for 10 years, he was born in 1934. Mr. DEAN. No, sir; that was a very brief part of the meeting in the early morning on the first day in which there was a great disappointment at the fact that the White House had not had more influence on deciding who would be a member of the committee from the Republican side certainly, and I -would hope, and I would assume if they could have had any influence on the totality of the appointment of the committee they would have been very happy but they had at least hoped to have an influence on the appointment and selection of the minority members. I think that is -very clearly reflected in this document that I have submitted to the committee from Mr. Haldeman. [00.21.39] Senator INOUYE. Did you discuss the possibility of digging up dirt on any one of the members here? Mr. DEAN. We hadn't gotten around to that at that point, Senator. I said we had not gotten to that point yet. Senator INOUYE. When did you get to that point, sir? Mr. DEAN. I am trying to recall specifically, I think it -was just to familiarize--when I -was reading from the Congressional Directory, a number of the members of the committee were men I did not know. I had prior dealings -with the chairman, I had had prior dealings with Senator Gurney, I had had prior dealings -with Senator Weicker. They were the only members of the committee I knew. Mr. Timmons -had given his assessment to Mr. Haldeman and this was just a, general session at this point as to the composition of the committee, the general philosophy and makeup of the committee. [00.22.51]
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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.22.51-INOUYE probes DEAN for evidence of efforts to tamper, intimidate, or interfere with the ERVIN COMMITTEE] Senator INOUYE. You just stated that at a later time you came to the digging up dirt. When did you get to the digging up dirt stage? Mr. DEAN. That must have, been, I can only recall an allusion to the fact that this would be, you know, looking into at some point in time but it really was not the focus of any discussion I can recall. Senator INOUYE. Who suggested this, sir? Mr. DEAN. The only comment I can recall making myself is, and I had made a similar comment with regard to the Patman committee hearing, and you will recall that I requested, after a discussion -with Mr. Haldeman that we cheek the financial or the campaign filing requirements Of the members of the Patman committee. I did receive a, document I have submitted that, document. To this day I have not, read that document and I cant tell you what it says. I didn't, have any interest in that. I had also been suggesting, I had had a suggestion, for Mr. Haldeman to call Governor Connally, to ask him about Mr. Patman and he said, "I think Mr. Patman might have one soft spot," but he also indicated some Republicans might have similar soft Spots, and when -Mr. Timmons and I discussed this -we realized this might create more problems than it would solve. [00.24.14] NOW, coming back to this committee, I can recall a comment when this discussion came up that it would be. very difficult for some members possibly some of the members of this committee, to throw stones when they were living in a glass house, and that is the comment I recall making. Senator INOUYE. Returning to the, President's statement which you quoted, "That we will take care of them after the election," did the President ever tell you what he meant by that? [00.24.50-INOUYE asks DEAN about references by NIXON to "taking care of" hostile reporters after the election] Mr. DEAN. To me, the way the conversation was evolving. and it moved right from there to the Internal Revenue Service, and there may have preceded that--because I am taking such care in any reference that I make to my conversations I recall with the President- to something about the Internal Revenue Service that led into the fact that I should keep a good list and then he -went on to talk, I do recall him very clearly telling Me to make a good list Of those who are giving us problems. that we will take care. of them after the election, We will make life less than pleasant for them, and it moved. the conversation moved, directly from there to a discussion of the Internal Revenue Service and I told him how, I was really telling him the fact that, I could not call Mr. Walters and tell Mr. Walters to get an audit started. [00.25.44-DEAN contends that NIXON pushed him to get the IRS to reward friends and punish ENEMIES.] And the President was rather annoyed at this and I told him the reason why when he asked me and I said, -well, because the bureaucracy of the Internal Revenue Service Is primarily Democratic and something like this cannot be done. Senator INOUYE. Did you ever call Mr. Walters to attempt to provide special treatment for anyone ? Mr. DEAN. To provide special treatment? Senator INOUYE. Yes or no? Mr. DEAN. No. I called him and asked him a number of questions on occasions on tax cases. Yes, but I don't recall ever asking him for special treatment and. to the contrary, Mr. Walters, is the type of man that, he and I discussed on a number of occasions the extreme danger of the White House doing anything that would politicize the Internal Revenue Service and he felt very strongly about That and the like. I got criticisms--- Senator INOUYE. Mr. Walters was not the man to see, who was your contact man in the Internal Revenue Service? Mr. DEAN. Mr. Caulfield had a contact man and he -will have to tell you who that, is because I do not know. Senator INOUYE. I thank you very much, Mr. Dean. Mr. DEAN. Thank you, Senator. [00.26.55-ERVIN, grinning, responds to the allegations that the WHITE HOUSE tried to dig up dirt on him] Senator ERVIN. I sort of regret that anything was brought out about the alleged attempt, the request, of Bob Haldeman about me, but I am glad it happened because President Nixon's campaign manager in 1968 and again in 1972 Charles R. Jonas, Jr., made this statement, and I cannot refrain from reading it because I am very grateful to him for it. He said, "Charles R. Jonas, Jr., who headed 'Nixon's reelection campaign in North Carolina, and has recently said he might run for Ervin's Senate seat, said he had not been contacted by anyone to discredit Ervin. "That would be an impossible task and almost foolish to attempt,' Jonas said when reached by phone. 'I think that Senator Ervin is one of the handful of people in the Senate whom it would be impossible to discredit. I think that is why he was chosen. He has a record of impeccable honesty and integrity. If I had to depend on any one, person in the Senate to proceed fairly and in a way that would protect the innocent, it would be Senator Ervin."' [00.28.12]
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Cars, Gas, Tires #3

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A wonderful collection of automobile related commercials on 16mm. Nice Camaros and Corvettes from the early 1970s, plus some classic used car commercials with the dealer talking to the camera, showing the great cars (clean!) ready to move off the lot, so come on down. Family vacation (color, 8 min)

Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.28.12-Sen. ERVIN has just finished reading a newspaper clipping that stated that ERVIN'S integrity was impeccable, in response to DEAN'S testimony that H.R. HALDEMAN wanted someone to dig up dirt on ERVIN] Senator ERVIN. I am deeply grateful for that compliment. [Applause]. [00.28.21-MORE ERVIN HUMOR!!!] And furthermore [laughter] when I was asked about, this I said it did not disturb me at all and I deeply regretted to say that all the indiscretions I had committed were barred by the statute of limitations and lapse of time. [Laughter.] And that I had lost my capacity to commit further indiscretions. [Applause and laughter.] Senator INOUYE. You are not that old. [00.29.01-Senator ERVIN gives a pithy rebuttal to those who question the Committee's purpose.] Senator ERVIN. This article states that, Secretary Butz went down to North Carolina and made some Uncomplimentary remarks about me in connection -with this investigation, saying I should call it off, as if it is my investigation rather than the Senate's And I was called and asked if I had any comments on Secretary Butz' statement and I said, "only one, and that was if the Secretary would come down before the committee and testify on his oath and on his personal knowledge that the Watergate affair had never happened, I would be the happiest man in the United States." [Laughter] The committee will stand in recess until 2 o'clock. [00.29.46-Senators stand for recess, reporters move into action-LEHRER v.o. states that ERVIN has ended the morning with another touch of SOUTHERN HUMOR] [00.29.52-LEHRER] LEHRER states that in a moment the "grilling" of DEAN will continue. [PBS network ID-title screen "SENATE HEARINGS ON CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES"] [00.33.19-LEHRER] LEHRER states that as the committee reconvenes, ERVIN has another question about the White House ENEMIES LIST [00.33.27]
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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.33.27-side view of ERVIN and BAKER seated at table] AFTERNOON SESSION, FRIDAY, JUNE 29, 1973 Senator ERVIN. The committee will come to order. Mr. Dean, Was Governor George Wallace of Alabama, on the list of enemies? [00.34.11] Mr. DEAN. Senator, I never really have gone through the list of enemies so I cannot name that, The only thing I know about Mr. Wallace in that relationship at all is that, the fact that, I understand that during Mr. Wallace's--Governor Wallace's--last gubernatorial campaign, that a substantial amount of money was provided by Mr. Kalmbach somewhere between $200,000 and $400,000, to Mr. Wallace's opponent. Senator ERVIN. That was provided in the last Governor's race in Alabama? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Senator ERVIN. Yes. Between $200,000 and $400,000? Mr. DEAN. 200. Senator ERVIN. 200,000. Mr. DEAN. And $100,000, yes. I do not know the precise figure. Senator ERVIN. Yes. I have no further questions. Senator Baker. [00.35.05] Senator BAKER. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Do I understand that, you know that, of your own knowledge, Mr. Dean? Mr. DEAN. That was told me by Mr. Kalmbach, who apparently made the arrangements. Senator BAKER. Thank you very much. Mr. Dean. this is your fifth day on the stand, and it is, I hope, the last session for this committee and for you and, therefore, I intend to abbreviate my questions, although following the same technique, I did yesterday. Let me, tell you in advance the two questions I -want to ask which will require multiple answers and try to suggest a format for the purposes of abbreviation. Obviously if you have an elaboration that you wish to make on any of these points you are free, to do so. But if you could answer them first and then elaborate, it would help us along. [00.35.56] My primary thesis is still what did the, President know, and when did he know it? On yesterday, I asked you to respond and you did respond, in terms of the quality of your knowledge, that is to say, whether it was direct first-hand information, whether it, was circumstantial or whether it was second-hand or hearsay information. Mr. DEAN. And I also believe I added documentary. Senator BAKER. Documentary evidence, that, is Correct. What I would like to do today is to limit that inquiry to the remaining meetings that that we did not cover and to direct information only. This is not to imply that I am not interested in the other but I hope to contain this to about 20 minutes, and if you could tell me In seriatim what you know first-hand of your own knowledge of the President's knowledge, and the date of that knowledge beginning where we left Off yesterday in February and working your way through the ending of your employment at the White House, I would be grateful. [00.37.01] Now, the second question I am going to put, to you after we finish that is one that really is, I am afraid, cumbersome and awkward. But You are a lawyer and I am a lawyer and we both understand the necessity for this. Rather than me asking you detailed and probing questions on particular areas of conflict in your testimony and those of other witnesses who have testified or witnesses we may have hereafter about Which you have personal knowledge, would you identify for me important elements of controversy that you know or suspect to exist. [00.37.38] This is Once again for the sake of organizing your rather voluminous testimony so that we have some Idea of how to test it, against the testimony of other witnesses. If you think either of those questions unfair I will try to revise them. If, you are, a agreeable to trying to proceed in that manner I would appreciate It If, you began first -with your first-hand knowledge of Presidential involvement, in February where we concluded our interrogation yesterday, [00.38.07]
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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.38.07-DEAN discusses meeting NIXON on Feb. 28, 1973] Mr. DEAN. I believe that we stopped yesterday with the, meeting on the 28th ,it which time I was told. I mentioned to you the fact that I had told the President that I thought he ought to know of my involvement in the matter. and then I will have to move along. Now, again, it is hard for me to separate in a sense what is defined as involvement because there was an evolving pattern that came out of the La Costa meetings when I began having my direct dealings with the President and many of these things related directly to that. [00.38.53] Senator BAKER. But even though the, pattern of activity- Mr. DEAN. I understand. Senator BAKER. [continuing]. And the circumstances involved are, important for the purpose of this abbreviated interrogation, would you please tell me what you told the President, the President told you, was said by the President in your presence or was said by you to the President. I guess that third one is unnecessary, but would you please do that, limiting it only to direct first-hand information for the purpose of this interrogation? [00.39.20] Mr. DEAN. Well, I think we ought to go to the next, as I say, the testimony. Senator BAKER. Yes, sir. Mr. DEAN [continuing]. Speaks for itself on a number of these matters I just referred to and we ought to move then to the meeting on March 13 at which the, toward the conclusion of that meeting. Senator BAKER. All right, would you stop just a moment, Mr. Dean. Mr. DEAN. Yes. [00.39.43] Senator BAKER. Mr. Chairman, there is a vote in progress and I would like very much to finish this line of inquiry, and I would hope that the Chair would permit me to continue and, if the rest of the committee will go vote, I will continue with this interrogation. Senator ERVIN. Fine, [00.40.00-DEAN testifies about his conversation with NIXON about raising $1 million dollars for PAYOFF to keep the BURGLARS silent about MAGRUDER, MITCHELL, HALDEMAN, EHRLICHMAN, AND DEAN'S involvement in WATERGATE] Mr. DEAN. During the conclusion of the meeting on the 13th, the, question of money and how to pay this support, silence money came up, and I explained to the President--I was telling the President of the problem. Senator BAKER. Where were you ? Mr. DEAN. I was in the President's office. Senator BAKER. In the oval office? Mr. DEAN. In the oval office. Senator BAKER. Who else was present? [00.40.21] Mr. DEAN. Mr. Haldeman was present. Senator BAKER. Anyone else? Mr. DEAN. That is all. Senator BAKER. All right, go ahead, sir, [00.40.28] Mr. DEAN. I was telling the President--I don't believe Mr. Haldeman was present, during the entire meeting to the best of my recollection but he came into the meeting at some point, at the point he, came in it was on an unrelated matter, the meeting was interrupted to resolve his particular problem and he stayed in while I was finishing my discussion of this because it had come up shortly before he came in, and he sat and listened for just a moment while we were talking and then he took care, of his business with the President and then stayed because, it was quite obviously toward the end of my meeting with the President. [00.41.05-DEAN testifying about his March 13 meeting with NIXON, and the "MILLION DOLLAR" CONVERSATION.] Senator BAKER. It might be useful to know how the meeting was arranged, at your request, at the President's request, or through Mr. Haldeman, or how? Mr. DEAN. The meeting was arranged per the request of the President. Senator BAKER. All right. Would you continue please? Mr. DEAN,. As I have testified the question of--I got into the discussion of the fact because I had had countless cross pressures and the like. as to who was going to raise this money that was being demanded, and Mr. Haldeman and Mr. Ehrlichman were unwilling to do it, Mr. Mitchell was unwilling to do it. [00.41.40] Senator BAKER. Are these the things you were saying to the President? Mr. DEAN. I will get to that. I am prefacing what the circumstance was that resulted this coming up with the meeting with the President. Senator BAKER. I don't mean to hamper you, but would it be possible to tell me of the conversation first and then to explain the background. [00.41.59-DEAN directly discusses his conversation with NIXON.] Mr. DEAN. All right. I told the President at some point that, toward the end of the conversation of the meeting, that the individuals who had either been convicted or pleaded guilty were continuing to make their demand on the White House and that it would be some time in the not too distant future, that these individuals would be, up for sentencing and the demands were at, this point again growing toward a crescendo point. [00.42.31-DEAN testifies that NIXON was aware and complicit in the PAYOFFS of the defendants] The President asked me. "Well, how much are they demanding and how much is it going to cost?" And I said, "Well. to the best of my estimation it will cost a million dollars or more to continue The, payment. At that point, the President, I can recall this very vividly, leaned back in his chair and he sort of slid his chair back from the desk and he said to me that a million dollars was no problem at all. In fact, I have a very clear visual picture even of the President of the fact that he had his hands somewhat in a position like this Is when he repeated it, when he looked over at Mr. Haldeman and said, "A million dollars is no problem to raise."
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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.43.22-BAKER questioning DEAN on his March 13, 1973 meeting with NIXON in which NIXON allegedly told DEAN it would be "no problem" to raise $ 1 million for the express purpose of keeping the Watergate BURGLARS silent at their trials] Senator BAKER. I take it from that that Mr. Haldeman was present during this portion of the conversation? Mr. DEAN. Yes, he was. Yes. he was. Senator BAKER. Go ahead, Sir. [00.43.32] Mr. DEAN. It was then he -asked me -who was putting the pressure for this, and I said it was principally coming through his attorney and at that point the President raised the fact that Mr. Hunt, or he had had discussions with -Mr. Haldeman--I mean with Mr. Ehrlichman and Mr. Colson about clemency for Mr. Hunt. Senator BAKER. I am sorry, my mind wandered. At that time he, the President, said that he had had conversations? [00.44.03-NIXON had been informed of the COVERUP strategy of EXECUTIVE CLEMENCY for the defendants by at least two people before meeting with DEAN in MARCH 1973] Mr. DEAN. That is correct. And he also went on to tell me that, with some expressions of annoyance, Mr. Colson had been told not to raise this with him, and he also said that Colson had raised it with him though, contrary to an instruction that he had received from 'Mr. Ehrlichman. Senator BAKER. Was Mr. Haldeman present during this portion of the conversation? Mr. DEAN. Yes. he was. Senator BAKER. Go ahead. sir. [00.44.30-DEAN informed NIXON that there was MONEY LAUNDERING involved in the PAYOFFS and the COVERUP] Mr. DEAN. From there, he then asked me, he said, "How is this money handled?" and I said, "Well, I don't know all the details but I know there is a laundering process so the money cannot be traced to any source." And I explained what, I knew about, the laundering process, and I said, "I am learning about things I newer knew about and the, next time I will know better how to handle these matters," and I do remember very vividly at this point Mr. Haldeman commenced with a rather good belly laugh. He thought this was quite funny, and that was that, the meeting really ended on that note. There was no further discussion on that -point. [00.45.15] Senator BAKER. Thank you, sir. Would you move on to the next occasion. Let me, while you -are, looking-- Mr. DEAN. I just don't want to in' miss any of the points I have in here. I am very clear -in my mind an the principal ones but I want to make sure there is no minor point that I miss also. Senator BAKER. All right. I fully understand that. I am asking you to hurry through this, and you should fully understand, Mr. Dean, if there are other points in your testimony that bear directly on this question, the fact that you don't identify them now does not mean that you do not stand on your statement as previously made. I am simply trying to organize it for the committee's purposes. Mr. DEAN. I understand. Senator BAKER. While you are looking let me ask you this: It seems Mr. Haldeman was present during, that meeting most of the time. Was there any significant conversation between you and the President before Mr. Haldeman came in? [00.46.16-the question of who can CORROBORATE DEAN'S allegations] Mr. DEAN. As I say, this conversation had commenced before, Mr. Haldeman came in. It was interrupted and I went back--Mr. Haldeman sat down while I was telling the President about this and then Stayed on during the remainder of the conversation. Senator BAKER. Do you remember at what point he came in, what point in your conversation? Mr. DEAN. I don't think I had gone much further than telling the President that there were problems in raising money. Senator BAKER. So it is fair to say, I assume, that Mr. Haldeman was there. for virtually -all of the. conversation? Mr. DEAN. Yes, I think that is correct. Senator BAKER. All right, sir, proceed if you will. Mr. DEAN. At least, you know, 90 percent of the conversation, I would say. Senator BAKER. Thank you. [00.46.56] Mr. DEAN. The next, occasion that I raised the matter -with the President myself was when he called me on the evening of the 20th, I had gone home, I was at home, as I recall, it must have, been about, I don't know, 7:30, 7:15, sometime, in that period of time, he called me and I went down to my living room to take the call. Senator BAKER. This was on March 20? Mr. DEAN. That, is correct. March 20. We -were having a rather rambling conversation. I at this point, because. of events that had proceeded over the last couple of days, told the President I would like to meet with him the next morning to discuss the implications of the, Watergate case that I thought I ought to bring to his attention as they affected the White House staff and himself. And he said, well, why don't you try to meet with me about 10 o'clock the next morning. Then We'll go to the meeting at 10 o'clock. That, was on the 21st. [00.48.00-DEAN testifies about preparing his "CANCER ON THE PRESIDENCY" speech to NIXON] As I told you, after the conversation with the President, and on the evening, the preceding evening. and the next, morning I thought, both on my way to work in the morning and when I entered the office in the, morning how I could most dramatically present the situation which I thought had to end that very day--it could not proceed another hour as far as I was concerned--in a way that would be very meaningful to the President and based on my thought and my--some discussion I had had with Mr. Moore the preceding, day, I decided I Would tell the President that there was a cancer growing on the Presidency and something had to be done about the cancer because It was growing daily and if there were not immediate surgery, it was going to kill the President himself. So I started with lines to that effect. [00.49.14]
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Fishing Contest - Reach Out

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Fishing Contest - Lions Club International - Chicago Park District - Reach Out Program Interior Shots: MCU fishing contest trophy w/kids (one girl, two boys) standing behind holding their prize winning catch. MS man of Lion's Club handing grade school aged girl a trophy. MCU pan three kids holding up their prize winning fish for the camera. Exterior shot: Rear MS three kids standing in street, holding fish at end line behind their backs, they turn to face camera, wave & hold up fish for the camera. Interior shot: MCU Lions club members & children during trophy presentation, pan to poster reading "Reach Out-Grab the Greatest Summer Ever". Exterior shot: GV girl & two boys in street, walking away from camera, turning heads toward camera, waving & showing the fish they caught.
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Ziggy the Elephant (Brookfield)

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ON PREVIEW CASSETTE 98016 Ziggy the Elephant (Brookfield)
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Race Track - with Donna Mae Mi

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Honolulu

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Camps

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Camps

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Shacks Ruinsbeared men

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Barren hills and rocks

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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)

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[00.49.14-DEAN discusses making his "CANCER ON THE PRESIDENCY" appeal to NIXON to end the COVERUP before it ruined his Presidency] Senator BAKER. Where did you meet with the President? Mr. DEAN. This was in the Oval Office. Senator BAKER. And who was present? Mr. DEAN. NO one Other than the he President and myself. Senator BAKER. And it was at 10 o'clock in the morning. Mr. DEAN. That, is correct, approximately 10 o'clock, as best, I can recall. Senator BAKER. Would you proceed with as much exactitude as you Can. [00.49.30] Mr. DEAN. I then told the President that what I would like to do is give him a broad overview and let him come back and ask any questions he might like to ask. I wanted to explain to him how the continued Support would be necessary how continued perjury would be necessary to perpetuate the coverup. Senator BAKER. Did you use those terms? Mr. DEAN. Yes, I did use those terms. Senator BAKER. All right, sir. go ahead. [00.50.01] Mr. DEAN. That was my definition to him of how the cancer was growing in other words that more people would have to perjure themselves--- Senator BAKER. Did you say these things as an advocate, that is, that, other support and perjury should continue--or as, examples as to why it should not continue? Mr. DEAN. As to why it should not continue. Senator BAKER. Did you make this clear to the President? Mr. DEAN. Absolutely. Senator BAKER. In what terms? [00.50.24-DEAN does not leave much doubt as to his intentions and possible interpretations-no one knows at this point that the conversation was TAPED] Mr. DEAN. As I say, I tried to make it as dramatic as the fact that this type of cancer was going to kill him and kill the Presidency if this type of thing was not stopped by surgery and ending that type of activity. Senator BAKER. Go ahead, sir. Before you do, what was the President's reaction to that? [00.50.45] Mr. DEAN. The President, if I recall--and I was not looking for reactions at that point as much as trying to be as forceful and dramatic in my presentation--it is like asking me what was reaction to they answer to any member of this panel to a particular question. In my now sitting here and answering these questions, I really haven't watched for the, reactions of the Senators and the like. I think you can understand that circumstance. Senator BAKER. I understand. It is fair to say, then, that you do not recall the reaction? Mr. DEAN. I do not recall the, reaction, no. Senator BAKER. Go ahead, if you would. [00.51.28] Mr. DEAN. I then proceeded to give the President the broad overview of what I knew of the entire situation--where it started. Senator BAKER. You might take us through that, if you will. 'Tell us as close as you can what you him. Mr. DEAN. Well, as I recall, I told him about the meetings that had occurred in Mr. Mitchell's office; that the fact that I had come back from Mr. Mitchell's office--- Senator BAKER. Is this the first time you told him of the meetings in Mitchell's office? Mr. DEAN. It is. Senator BAKER. Go ahead sir. [00.52.09-- A key point is whether DEAN informed HALDEMAN-such would make it a strong likelihood that NIXON was informed immediately thereafter by HALDEMAN] Mr. DEAN. That I had come back to Mr. Haldeman and told him of the circumstances of those meetings, what, had been presented. Senator BAKER. Just, for clarity, these. were the meetings at which the plan for bugging and Mr. DEAN. Mugging---- Senator BAKER [continuing]. And illegal entry were discussed in Attorney General John Mitchell's office? Mr. DEAN. That is right. There, were two meetings, the, second meeting at which I don't know the full extent of the discussion there, but I know that, you know, what at I did here was Senator BAKER. All right, but you began telling the President of those meetings, and would you continue from that point? Mr. DEAN. When I was telling him the broad overview, I did not get into an awful lot of specifies, because I told him, I said any point that you want to either question me. or if -we can come, back and have, I will answer any of your questions subsequently. Then I told him of the fact that I had reported this to Mr. Haldeman, that, I had been distressed by the situation myself, had told Mr. Haldeman what I had seen and advised Mr. Haldeman that I didn't think anybody in the White House should have any involvement at all in this, and that I told him I was not going to have any involvement in it, -and Mr. Haldeman had agreed that I should not have any involvement, in it. [00.53.35] Senator BAKER. Did you tell the President when that conversation with Mr. Haldeman took place? Mr. DEAN. Yes, I did. I told him it occurred shortly after the meeting in Mr. Mitchell's office, after the second meeting in February. Senator BAKER. All right, sir; go ahead. Mr. DEAN. I also recall that I told him I did not know how the plans had been finally approved; I didn't know -what precisely had happened as to the final decision to sign off on some phase of the plan. [00.54.10]
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Parker Group(Sequoia Park)

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Moro Rock Climbing

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Pud Pots and long shots of Valley

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Formations

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